Dynon and Avidyne IFD

kurtfly

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Regarding the sending flight plan to an IFD from Foreflight when connected to Skyview network it still does not work reliably. This is a Foreflight issue. If you have more than one device that can accept a flight plan it assumes the first device it sees, Skyview. However, you can get a flight plan from an IFD to Foreflight by using the MORE, DEVICES, select the IFD, tap the displayed flight plan. It will then load into Foreflight active flight plan.

regarding the Skyview ADS-B traffic and Weather displayed on the IFD. It does not work. I Wiresharked the Skyview network and discovered that when the IFD connects to Skyview network it auto assigns the IP address 10.177.82.171. However, the ads-b traffic is UDP broadcast on IP 10.191.255.255. This is a different subnet. So, the IFD is not configuring the WiFi connection correctly ie. Subnet masking correctly.

when I connect my tablet running Foreflight to the Skyview network it auto configures the WiFi to IP: 10.191.1.1 with the Subnet Mask of 255.240.0.0. it has no problem seeing the UDP data stream.

i also configured my IFD to connect to another airplane in my hanger that has a Stratux. This works, traffic seen on the IFD. The Wireshark data shows the ADS-b data is on the main IP address. Does not use a subnet. I believe this is the problem regarding the ADS-B data. I have provided this data to Avidyne. I asked if they had a way to manually configure the network interface but they have not responded.
 

Merlinspop

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I was hoping 10.3 would change the way changed/updated flight plans from FF are handled. Does it still come across as a completely new flight plan that, when activated, tries to send you back to the original waypoint?
 

Dramaking57

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Regarding the sending flight plan to an IFD from Foreflight when connected to Skyview network it still does not work reliably. This is a Foreflight issue. If you have more than one device that can accept a flight plan it assumes the first device it sees, Skyview. However, you can get a flight plan from an IFD to Foreflight by using the MORE, DEVICES, select the IFD, tap the displayed flight plan. It will then load into Foreflight active flight plan.

regarding the Skyview ADS-B traffic and Weather displayed on the IFD. It does not work. I Wiresharked the Skyview network and discovered that when the IFD connects to Skyview network it auto assigns the IP address 10.177.82.171. However, the ads-b traffic is UDP broadcast on IP 10.191.255.255. This is a different subnet. So, the IFD is not configuring the WiFi connection correctly ie. Subnet masking correctly.

when I connect my tablet running Foreflight to the Skyview network it auto configures the WiFi to IP: 10.191.1.1 with the Subnet Mask of 255.240.0.0. it has no problem seeing the UDP data stream.

i also configured my IFD to connect to another airplane in my hanger that has a Stratux. This works, traffic seen on the IFD. The Wireshark data shows the ADS-b data is on the main IP address. Does not use a subnet. I believe this is the problem regarding the ADS-B data. I have provided this data to Avidyne. I asked if they had a way to manually configure the network interface but they have not responded.
There MUST be some way to configure the correct IP address range with an appropriate subnet mask buried in some hidden menu....
 

kurtfly

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I was hoping 10.3 would change the way changed/updated flight plans from FF are handled. Does it still come across as a completely new flight plan that, when activated, tries to send you back to the original waypoint?
I don’t expect that to change. Do you really want a push from Foreflight to change the active flight plan. I have accidently hit soft keys in Foreflight. What if it cancels an approach when you are in the middle of shooting an approach. I like the idea of making all my changes in flight on the IFD then load them into Foreflight. Pushing flight plans from Foreflight is only for loading IFD on the ground.
 

Rhino

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ADS-B would be nice, but the ball's in Avidynes' court for addressing this problem.
 

jsalak

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Spent about an hour on trying to get two iPADs with FF and IFD100 apps to work with my SV-D1000 and IFD540. Avidyne 10.3 made some changes to the network setup and operation, so the first error I made was renaming the default IFD network to the SkyView network name. The default IFD network is an IFD Hotspot, so the iPads were unable to connect. I added a second network on the IFD (user configuration setup) as the Skyview network and used the new CONNECT lsk to start it. Took a few tries but I finally managed to get the Devices page on FF to show SV, IFD, ADS-B, and the other iPad all at the same time. I was able to load a FF flight Plan using the Send to Panel function, the IFD and SV both accepted the flight plan. The flight plan showed up on the IFD FMS Routes page. I noted on the SV Flight Plan page the SV side updated to the sent plan, however the 540 plan source did not update. Once I activated the FF originated route on the IFD, the SV's 540 flight plan page updated to the match the SV side. It looks like ADS-B data may be going to the IFD, no traffic was showing up and the weather was clear, so that will require another look. Next item is to get the IDF100 working again, worked fine before the 10.3 update and now it appears to have no connection. Pages 5-31 to 5-38 in the IFD Pilot's Guide were very helpful.
 

jsalak

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Updated to 16.4.0 today and could not load a FF flight plan to the IFD over the SykView network. Interestingly, the IDF100 is now working on both iPads. The IDF is showing up on FF Devices and lists receiving flight plans in the capability box (same as SkyView). The other odd item is nether iPad is showing up on the IFD network devices to allow a connection. Was working fine with both listed prior to 16.4.0. I suspect if the IFD is not seeing the iPads as authorized network devices, the FF Load to Panel flight plan is being ignored by the IFD. Now on to figuring out why the SkyView Network is not telling the IFD the iPads are on the network. Maybe someone can sneak a Dynon ADS-B to IFD fix into the 10.3 update that will be coming out to fix the default frequency issue.
 

Reaver

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With Skyview 16.4.0 and AviOS 10.3, I assume the IP addresses are the same as Kurt's post above? (The IFD auto assigns 10.177.82.171 and the Skyview still broadcasts ads-b traffic via UDP on IP 10.191.255.255?) If so, looks like we're stuck waiting for an AviOS update and there's nothing to be done from the Dynon side?
 

Dramaking57

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With Skyview 16.4.0 and AviOS 10.3, I assume the IP addresses are the same as Kurt's post above? (The IFD auto assigns 10.177.82.171 and the Skyview still broadcasts ads-b traffic via UDP on IP 10.191.255.255?) If so, looks like we're stuck waiting for an AviOS update and there's nothing to be done from the Dynon side?
There is another hurdle. I was told by Avidyne that Dynon HDX streams out its ADSB data using an "Extended" ADSB format. Avidyne IFD expects and will only accept the straight up "Capstone" format also called "Open ADSB." Likey Dynon would need to change their format or create an option of which fomat to broadcast. Very disappointing!
 
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