Is there a chance the Skyview could add a page that would emulate a traditional analog flight display (6 pack)? The analog display of airspeed and altitude would be very helpful in the pattern. The competition already has this. While I plan to use the standard display the vast majority of the time, an analog display would be especially valuable for aerobatics and the landing pattern.
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Actually, "the competition" no longer does this. It was removed in a software update long ago. Go check their pages and user manuals, there is no mention of it anymore. I even seem to remember a mention somewhere that nobody used it.
I think once you fly SynVis, you'd find that putting the flight path marker on the runway is a lot more helpful than a round gauge, and things like wind direction are really useful too. So I doubt it would be a feature used much given how much you give up going to it.
But as with all features, feel free to pile on and let us know you want it!
I think once you fly SynVis, you'd find that putting the flight path marker on the runway is a lot more helpful than a round gauge, and things like wind direction are really useful too. So I doubt it would be a feature used much given how much you give up going to it.
But as with all features, feel free to pile on and let us know you want it!
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Actually they did just release a new feature with this enabled.....
Middle of this page.
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Newsletters/Dec10/decembernewsletter.html
It is kind of a hybrid, but it does cover up most of the screen. They did make the instruments kind of transparent though. Not sure the FPM would show thru or not.
Actually they did just release a new feature with this enabled.....
Middle of this page.
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Newsletters/Dec10/decembernewsletter.html
It is kind of a hybrid, but it does cover up most of the screen. They did make the instruments kind of transparent though. Not sure the FPM would show thru or not.
I saw this feature last week on a current and updated Advanced system so I think Brantel is right. Having had a flight path marker on the HUD on the jet I flew for the Navy, I do appreciate it's value. That said, I still would like to have the analog presentation for low airpseed and/or high alpha flight. The information is there, I would just like the ability to see it displayed in the most useful manner during these particular flight regimes.
mmarien
Murray M.
I can appreciate packing in all the features possible, but this one is retrograde. I would rather see Dynon spend the effort on advanced features not available with standard gas gauges.
I'm with Skysailor and Brantel on this.
I have somewhere north of 10,000 hours flying glass cockpit multicrew airplanes, and flying the Boeing at work with 2-4 sets of eyes in the cockpit I appreciate the detailed information provided by a PFD/MFD combination. But when flying VFR I've got my eyes outside looking for traffic and enjoying the flight, and only glance inside mostly looking for airspeed/altitude/engine instruments.
While it's nice to have many of the electronic advantages the Skyview and the D1-series present, at times it's more of an advantage to have a simple, clean instrument display for quick reference and comprehension. In the Feb 2011 Kitplanes on page 36 I see that the MGL Extreme has a "VFR Screen" that displays airspeed and altitude in easy to quickly comprehend round dial format, plus other information on the sides and bottom.
I am currently building a Progressive Aerodyne Searey for Day VFR flying and in addition to a glass PFD many of us SeaGulls have started fitting an analog airspeed indicator for a quick "TLAR glance" and finding it very useful. If I could build my own option I'd create a VFR panel display with a one button reversion to the PFD in case of inadvertent IMC.
While I like the flexibility of the Skyview and the quality of the Dynon product, I believe this would be a good option and would only serve to enhance the product.
Thanks
I have somewhere north of 10,000 hours flying glass cockpit multicrew airplanes, and flying the Boeing at work with 2-4 sets of eyes in the cockpit I appreciate the detailed information provided by a PFD/MFD combination. But when flying VFR I've got my eyes outside looking for traffic and enjoying the flight, and only glance inside mostly looking for airspeed/altitude/engine instruments.
While it's nice to have many of the electronic advantages the Skyview and the D1-series present, at times it's more of an advantage to have a simple, clean instrument display for quick reference and comprehension. In the Feb 2011 Kitplanes on page 36 I see that the MGL Extreme has a "VFR Screen" that displays airspeed and altitude in easy to quickly comprehend round dial format, plus other information on the sides and bottom.
I am currently building a Progressive Aerodyne Searey for Day VFR flying and in addition to a glass PFD many of us SeaGulls have started fitting an analog airspeed indicator for a quick "TLAR glance" and finding it very useful. If I could build my own option I'd create a VFR panel display with a one button reversion to the PFD in case of inadvertent IMC.
While I like the flexibility of the Skyview and the quality of the Dynon product, I believe this would be a good option and would only serve to enhance the product.
Thanks
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Interesting comments that the present style of ribbon gauges are difficult to comprehend. I suppose automobile gauges went the complete cycle from round analog, to flat ribbon analog, to digital number and now the majority of vehicles have round analog speedometers - electronically driven of course. I kind of miss the needle flopping around when the cable got worn.
The ultimate is the AFS system shown in the link above that has round analog gauges on a synthetic vision background. I'm thinking that they should allow the background to be changed to different scenery much like a computer desktop. I might even make that a suggestion. It would be nice to see some mountains in the background while flying around the featureless prairies. Or vice versa. Nice flat prairie on the display would have a calming effect while flying between the big rocks.
While we're asking, if they do decide to add an analog display perhaps they could make sure the zero is on the bottom instead of the top of the gauges. Whose idea was that anyway? It's like driving on the other side of the road. Just no logic to it.
Just a thought.
The ultimate is the AFS system shown in the link above that has round analog gauges on a synthetic vision background. I'm thinking that they should allow the background to be changed to different scenery much like a computer desktop. I might even make that a suggestion. It would be nice to see some mountains in the background while flying around the featureless prairies. Or vice versa. Nice flat prairie on the display would have a calming effect while flying between the big rocks.
While we're asking, if they do decide to add an analog display perhaps they could make sure the zero is on the bottom instead of the top of the gauges. Whose idea was that anyway? It's like driving on the other side of the road. Just no logic to it.
Just a thought.
Good suggestion about the "analog" display not being opaque. This would allow the user to maintain the synthetic vision in the background for situational awareness. If this makes the feature a great deal more difficult to implement, I would settle for just the analog display on this one page. I plan to use the analog display page only for high alpha/aerobatic work and in the landing pattern.
I currently fly with a Dynon D10A which was placed in a traditional panel in place of the attitude gyro by the previous owner when he had a vacuum pump failure. Only the Attitude and Heading gyros are gone. All the other analog instruments remain. While I have set the D10A display to give me the information I use, I still find the traditional altimeter and airspeed much more useful in the flight regimes I mention. Most of the visual scan is spent outside the cockpit. The traditional analog altimeter and airspeed give much quicker interpretation with just a quick glance because the needle position can be read and the trend implied from the last scan almost instantaneously. The airspeed/altitude of the Dynon are just as accurate but are merely numbers which must be read and translated to actual vs desired. While the Dynon's magenta trend indicators can be useful, they simply are no match for the analog indicators in these phases of flight. I find the Dynon to be entirely fine during climb, cruise and descent.
I currently fly with a Dynon D10A which was placed in a traditional panel in place of the attitude gyro by the previous owner when he had a vacuum pump failure. Only the Attitude and Heading gyros are gone. All the other analog instruments remain. While I have set the D10A display to give me the information I use, I still find the traditional altimeter and airspeed much more useful in the flight regimes I mention. Most of the visual scan is spent outside the cockpit. The traditional analog altimeter and airspeed give much quicker interpretation with just a quick glance because the needle position can be read and the trend implied from the last scan almost instantaneously. The airspeed/altitude of the Dynon are just as accurate but are merely numbers which must be read and translated to actual vs desired. While the Dynon's magenta trend indicators can be useful, they simply are no match for the analog indicators in these phases of flight. I find the Dynon to be entirely fine during climb, cruise and descent.