Assign existing waypoint to Bearing Pointer[s]?

[cbretana]

By default, bearing pointer 1 in the HDX points to the current GPS waypoint. You cannot control this. Many of us only have one nav source (an SV-GPS-2020/250), installed. In this case bearing pointer 2 is more or less useless. It would be a very useful enhancement to add functionality to allow pilot to assign any existing waypoint to either bearing pointer.

 

[dlloyd]

Umm. What would you have it point to?

 

[cbretana]

I don't understand your question. I would have the bearing pointer point to the waypoint I assigned to it!

 

[Daryl G]

It will point with a second GPS source (not just another antenna), or with a Nav radio, etc.

 

[swatson999]

You keep asking the same question in new threads, and getting the same answer...you need a second navigation source in order to assign ANY of the 3 pointers to a different source.

 

[cbretana]

You do not understand. The Bearing Pointer does NOT point to the GPS satellite when it's assigned to SkyView and you are on a active flight plan. No, it points to the destination of the current leg of the flight plan, i.e., a Waypoint. I am just suggesting that the system software be modified to allow the user to assign any existing waypoint to the Bearing pointer.

 

[dlloyd]

I understand what you're asking, I'm just trying to figure out why and how it could be used. If you have a multi point flight plan, punch the flight plan button and see the the courses and distances. Or other buttons and see the nearest airports, VORs, NDB, intersections, etc. Look at the map and you see all flight plan legs and waypoints depicted. Most times if I'm going somewhere using a multi point flight plan, the legs don't vary more than a few degrees, pointing to them won't be telling you much. The fine folks at Dynon can make anything happen if there is a need or a use for the masses.

 

[cbretana]

I confess I am relatively new to new glass cockpit avionics. I learned in the USAF using ADI/HSI with multiple bearing pointers and used the bearing pointer and DME for many functions. I may be missing it only because I have not yet become comfortable performing the same tasks using the new avionics.

 

[cbretana]

But as one example I fly for the Civil Air Patrol, and I volunteer for local county Sheriff Search and Rescue group. We could use this functionality when we are flying a defined search pattern over the ground, but need to rapidly establish situation awareness about a position communicated to us as a bearing and range from a defined ground reference point.

 

[airguy]

Civil Air Patrol now has aircraft with Dynon HDX panels installed? Which group?

 

[cbretana]

My CAP unit aircraft has the Garmin G-1000. But I use my own aircraft with HDX when I fly for local Sheriff Air Group. I was just describing possible use for this functionality, But the G-1000 is the same way. In G-1000, you cannot specify a separate "target" or waypoint for the G-1000 Bearing Pointers. All you can do is assign a Navigation "source" for them. And if the Navigation source is a GPS receiver, then the "point" they are actually pointing to is not the Nav Source itself, as it is when you assign a VOR, or an ADF, (which would be silly, how can you point to the satellites?), it is the waypoint that you are currently navigating to, either via the current activated leg of a flight plan, or a Direct-To waypoint. You cannot assign any other waypoint to the bearing pointer when the Nav source is a GPS Receiver. This is what I would like to be able to do.
But as I said, I am slowly coming to the realization that the system can be used to do most of the things I used to do with a bearing pointer in other, easier, ways.

Thanks for your patience!

 

[dlloyd]

I must be a little slow, still don't understand exactly what you're trying to do. Yes, it can probably do what you want. Some GPS receivers will even display a search and rescue grid pattern to follow. Don't think Skyview will do that however.
What you may try is Direct to the waypoint you are referencing, have both the HSI and BRG 1 source set for Skyview. You will constantly see the distance to the waypoint, both on the PDF and MAP displays, and the BRG 1 pointer will always be pointing to the waypoint.

 

[RVDan]

I get that you want to assign the pointer to a future waypoint in the flight plan, but that is not possible with this system.

 

[cbretana]

dloyd, Yes, Direct to a waypoint will cause BOTH bearing [pointers to point to that waypoint and the little pop up box to indicate bearing and range to the Direct Waypoint.
But if you only have one GPS Navigator, and you have a flight plan route in Skyview, then going Direct to another defined waypoint will override that. What I was hoping is, Since there are TWO bearing pointers, and I know Skyview can calculate and display bearing and range to more than one at a time (the flight plan display does that already, it seems to me that it would only be a minor enhancement to allow the pilot to assign two completely different waypoint to the two bearing pointers independently of whatever waypoint the flight plan (or the Direct function) was set to.

All sorts of other functionality would become possible if you could do this.

RVDan,

Yes I know it is not possible. I am suggesting this as an enhancement. And I do not just want to be able to assing a future flight plan waypoint to a bearing pointer, I want to be able to assign ANY arbitrary waypoint to the Bearing pointer.

But thanks to all, for time and patience! I am pursuing a dead end it seems...

 

[dlloyd]

I had a Garmin SL30 that fed my Skyview. Set one bearing pointer as Nav1 and the second Nav2 would display the standby frequency. A few years before GPS, I would have paid big money for a 2 pointer RMI. Looked neat but rarely used. Now I tune the nav radio now and then to see if it works. I've come around to a different way of thinking.

 

[cbretana]

Yes I thought about the SL30... But I am very limited in Panel space. (Long EZ), and the SL30, even used, is in the thousands$...