D180

gus

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Hi, I am very new on this forum, in fact on any forum so please forgive me if I make mistakes.

I bought a Flight Deck 180 to be installed on the left instrument panel of my plane.

A/ What is the best choise for the right panel, D100 or D120, and no problems to interconnect with the Left Panel D180?
Can the Right Panel Display then also show mixed efis/ems, full efis or full ems? (including OAT-TAS on efis etc)
And where to find the documentation about this?

B/ I flew during three days a fast ultralight (dynamic wt9) with a D100- D120 setup through Europe. Both D's were set max bright, but it was not possible to read the D's with sunglasses ( these were needed to fly) and the D's were not exposed to direct sunlight. But there was no problem at all to read the centerpanel crisp GPS AVmap display, even with with sunglasses, under the same light conditions. Has the D180 a better contrast and or will the display contrast be improved in the near future? I remember a few years ago my laptop was unreadable outside, but now, outside, the screen is bright and crisp, even angled.

C/ The D100 compass line was really not good, all old times standard magnetic compass errors were magnified due to the wide display. Any improvement on the D180 (i am no specialist but I think an averaging filter would help)?

D/ Is there a dedicated D180 Forum?

Thank you very much,
Gus
 

dynonsupport

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Gus,

The only other unit you can network with a D180 is a D100, since the D120 is an engine monitor and you can only have one EMS in the plane. A D100 will give you redundant EFIS dispays in the airplane, so if one fails, you will still have EFIS information. You can display any screen you want on either side of the aircraft, including full EFIS on either screen, full EMS, or spilt EFIS/EMS. We just released the software that allows all of this to be done, so we're still working on the documentation, but to do it you just hook the DSAB wires together between the two units and it will automatically detect the other instrument.

The GPS AVMap has exactly the same brightness as our screens: 400 nits. I'm guessing that your sunglasses were polarized. Polarized sunglasses block the light from LCD screens because LCD's polarize the light as well, so at some orientations the screens go dark. This explans why the vertical AVMap was clear but the horizontal EFIS and EMS were dark. With any modern airplane with LCD's inside, you really can't wear polarized sunglasses due to this situation. As far as I know, it's against the rules to wear polarized sunglasses in any Boeing cockpit due to this.

We did just release a brighter screen at Oshkosh, which is twice as bright at 800 nits. It is a $200 option, and you will also be able to upgrade your current units for $200 each beginning in October. Most laptops are 150-200 nits, so even the current screen on your D180 should be twice as bright as that.

The D180 is literally a D100 and a D120 in one box with one screen. The screen is identical, and the performance of the EFIS and EMS is exactly the same. You must calibrate the compass in the D100 or D180, and you must mount the compass module away from electical and magnetic interference. If the compass was moving around it was in a location where something was interfering with it. If it was innacurate all the time but not moving around, it was probably not calibrated. Most of our D100/D180 customers find the compass to be more accurate than anything else in their airplane once it is located and calibrated properly. I'm guessing that the structure of the ultralight didn't allow them to locate the compass properly.

There isn't a dedicated D180 forum since it doesn't have any differences from a standalone EFIS or EMS except that it has only one screen, so asking questions in either place is just fine.
 

gus

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Thank you very much for your quick reply.

Are all future new unit orders (D180, 100, 120) Bright Screen or needs this to be specified?
Delays on this?

PS/ no polarising gasses (I fly 747-400), but I am sure the new screens will be great.

Thanks again for your clear replies.

Gus
 

dynonsupport

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The bright screen is a $200 option and is not automatic on new orders. It needs to be specified.

We are not shipping bright screens for about 4 weeks, and we are not doing upgrades for about 8 weeks. We have standard brightness D100's in stock and ready to ship.
 

gus

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Thanks again for your immediate reply.

So if I inform my Dynon dealer in France Right Now, we can get a "Bright " 180 and 100 shipped in about 4 weeks?
Any special components to interconnect them?

Gus
 

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Gus,
We expect that our delivery time on the bright screens would be about 4 weeks, but it may take a few weeks longer than that. We always ship first come, first served, so getting your order in now will get you in very early on the list so it would ship very soon after we start shipments. Since we just announced the bright screens 4 days ago, your dealer may not know about the bright screen option yet, so you may need to work with them to get it ordered.

Nothing special is needed to connect units. Just hook "DSAB A" to "DSAB A" and "DSAB B" to "DSAB B".
 

gus

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Thanks,
I foreward this mail now , please consider this order done and reserve my Bright 180 and 100.
I ask him , "Finesse Max" in France to confirm asap this Friday morning.

Gus
 

gus

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Would you have an order ref nr I can send my dealer, so we know we are talking about the same thing?
TKS Gus
 
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