HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Crown

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Hello,
I have purchased a D-100 with the HS-34 unit, and I am now being told that the King KN-155-165 (the most popular nav/com of all time) and the KN-53 are TOTALLY incompatible with the HS-34...even with a composite conversion unit to ARINC 429..."full compatibility with some GPS and NAV radios has been limited by the serial connection method.
The HS34 overcomes these restraints by adding ARINC-429, analog, and serial interfaces to cover many popular radios" seems a bit overzealous considering the popularity of the Bendix/King line!!!
Thanks,
Craig LaPorte

 

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Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

Craig,
There's a converter from the KX-155 to ARINC-429? What's the model number? If this exists, it should work fine.

All we know of is the KN-72, which converts composite to a syncro resolver (which is not ARINC-429). This has been tried but unfortunately does not work from what we have heard.

We'll happily take back the HS34 if it doesn't fit your needs.

 

[subdubber]

Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

"Also, the KX 155 requires an external
VOR/LOC converter (usually included
n the appropriate Bendix/King NAV
indicator) while the KX 165 comes
with a built-in VOR/LOC converter
designed to interface directly with any
ARINC standard CDI or HSI display."

So...does this mean that if I have the KX 155 I would have to buy a converter? If so, what would the model number be, and if I have a KX 165 it should interface no problem at all? I currently have the KN 63 and I am being told that it will not work period, since the KN 72 must be used to convert the signal.
Thanks,
Craig

 

[dynonsupport]

Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

At one point, we believed that the KN-72 converter would work, but it turns out it doesn't quite end up outputting standard enough analog signals that we can work with.

If there is a converter that converts the King composite output to ARINC-429 - we don't know of one - that may work since ARINC-429 is a digital standard.

In contrast, the KN-72 converts composite to analog, but unfortunately not all analog output is the same. If we had to do it all again, having seen how few analog outputs actually work, we probably would've left that capability off the HS34.

 

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Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

The Narco Nav 825 states "It interfaces easily to the NARCO ID-825 or any other standard ARINC indicator or HSI system"...does this unit interface with the HS-34, even though it doesn't explicitly say ARINC 429?
Thanks
Craig

 

[dynonsupport]

Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

When they say ARINC in that context, they mean the analog ARINC connections (technically, the analog resolver is an ARINC standard too), which is our analog connectivity. This is the connection method that customers have not had much success with. ARINC-429 is very different, and is a digital data standard.

 

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Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

"NOTED"

 

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Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

"how few analog outputs actually work"

Can you please tell me the nav radios that will work with the HS-34? Is it true to say that I may be wasting my time altogether with any radio other than the SL-30 or GNS-430/480? I have been watching the advertising on the HS-34 and a little while back you switched the wording from SL-30 & GNS-430 to "many other radios" (see first post). If there are no other radios that you can safely say I should try, then you should send this thread to marketing and have them stop telling potential customers that the HS-34 will work with radios other than the new garmin goodies...Thanks

 

[dynonsupport]

Re: HS-34 Incompatible with Bendix/King Silver Cro

Unfortunately, we don't have a full, complete, authoritative list available besides the data generated by our internal testing (which encompasses a few radios) and customers' experiences with ones we didn't have here. We learn a little more about the radios out there every time a customer tries a new one out. The most up-to-date information can be found on our wiki, which can be found at. The particular page you want is this one: http://wiki.dynonavionics.com/HS34_Documentation

It is true that the SL30 and the Garmin 4xx/5xx series are the radios that are best-supported and are known to work well.

We definitely don't actively try to sell the analog capability of the HS34 anymore, though there are radios, like the SL30 and 430, that work fine with it (even though that's not nominally how you'd connect them anyway). Though there are likely radios that work, we don't know which ones, and some of the ones we thought might work don't. You're probably right that our website can use some tweaking to de-emphasize the capability.