Interface to Vertical Power

[dpbarnes]

Will Skyview eventually output engine info so my Vertical Power can do automatic mode switching? Vertical Power uses a combination of gps and engine info to decide what mode of flight you are in and turn on or off equipment as required. For instance landing light can be turned on when you are in the landing mode.

 

[dynonsupport]

SkyView doesn't output this data now, and it isn't on our short term development schedule.  However, we are demand driven in our priority list, and will continue to evaluate that feature.

 

[dpbarnes]

Sharing engine data seems like a priority project to me.  Besides Vertical Power that engine output would be necessary to anyone wanting to log their engine performance for later analyzes. Many other EFIS and engine monitors provide this output like Garmin 900X, Grand Rapids, Chelton, Advance Flight Systems, EA MVP-50 and Dynon EMS D-10 and D120. Besides providing automatic mode switching it would also allow me to use the VP screen for engine info and use the Dynon screens for PFD and Moving Map thereby avoid having to split the screens into threes and work with that smaller HSI.  The Dynon engine screen would also be available if the VP screen went south.  I have been looking for alternatives if you choose to not provide this data and the best answer I have so far is for the engine instruments to go into a Grand Rapids EIS 4000 mounted behind the panel and output the data to VP for display.  Seems like a sloppy answer with no backup display.

 

[dynonsupport]

Dan,
Datalogging internally is going to be in SkyView shortly, but that is different than streaming out over a serial port. Many more people use internal logging than streaming to a serial capture device.

If you really need the VP stuff, and the functions of that trump really in depth engine monitoring, a Dynon SkyView is not for you right now. We're just being totally honest about our priorities and want you to know where we are. We're not going to promise something that isn't on our schedule right now.

If you do use the VP as your "engine monitor", you're going to lose a lot of the really helpful features of an EMS, such as % power, auto LOP/ROP detection, unified system wide alarms, tach timers done the way they are supposed to be, and a lot more.

Also remember, if there is one source, there is no backup. You still have a single point of failure.

If 20 other people show up and ask, that could of course sway us.

 

[dpbarnes]

Since I have two 10" Skyview displays with a Vertical power in between already mounted and operating not to mention two Dynon autopilot servos, two adahrs and engine monitoring module a different Efis is not an option for me at this time.  One of the main selling features of Skyview for me was that with two screens I could have two primary flight displays.  My wife and I are both pilots and she agreed to the right seat as long as it pretty much had what the left seat has.  

I will post this exchange on some Lancair and RV forums to see if there is any interest in this configuration so you know whether it is worth your trouble.

 

[kziygz5bwg0]

Hi Dan
I am in the same position as you 2 x 10" Skyviews soon purchasing a VP200, although I will still use the Skyview as the main engine monitor
I will still require the output over a serial port for the mode of flight.
Hope this will make you move this further up the list at Dynon

 

[bbtapb]

Great to hear that you're allocating development resource to more useful features than supporting an overcomplicated set of switches and fuses/breakers. VP seems to be for people who don't otherwise spend enough time or money on their airplanes.

 

[trevpond]

Hi Dan,

Having seen one of these units, I'm all for it and would be very interested in having one working with the Skyview - please add me to the list and also a friend of mine who is building an RV.

regards



Trevor

 

[dpbarnes]

Thanks guys for the support.  I am patiently waiting hoping Dynon finds time to output the data.  I am doing body work so I can afford to wait.

Bob,
Having installed the VP unit I think it simplifies the installation and operation not complicates it.  I don't have a single switch on my panel that isn't built in to a piece of equipment.  For trouble shooting having a real time display of current draw on each device is really handy.  Having the logic to deal with pilot/copilot trim inputs and stuck switch situations is great.  I really liked being able to define preset flap positions.  There is a boat load of features that appear to be well thought out.  I spent almost as much on the vp-200 duo as I did on the Skyview.  I would have liked it better if it was half the cost but their new products that use the efis to display is considerably less.

Dan

 

[kziygz5bwg0]

I Full understand where you at Dynon are coming from consentrating on the main features (Software development) within the skyview system.
You have produce a stunning system, Which is why after looking at many other systems and price did not enter into the equation (Chelton Garmin AP ETC) I purchased the full 2 x 10" skyview system.
With the introduction of the intergrated transponder and in the future
I read somewhere COM/Intercom.
This will be one fantastic Package for anyone just staring there Kit Plane.
But for the likes of Me, Dan, Trev + the RV Builder who are close to completion of our kits and probaly many people who never posted on the forum we have purchased most of our Avionics before the Skyview was available, Currently my Garmin Transponder no traffic and VP 200 are my only issues so even if you can put this on the Future list this will help, Its probaly going to take 12 months to complete my Kit.
+ I am sure there are people who would like to upgrade there already completed plane to the Skyview, That will look at different systems if there is no compatability with current panel.
Otherwise still think you have produced a fantastic EFIS and realy looking forward to flying behind it.
Chris. :