SV-XPNDR-263 also for Europe?

[Michel from Switzerland]

Hi folks at Dynon,

I would like to replace my old Dynon Transponder with the new one with ADSB-Out capability. I'am based in the European Region. My questions:

- In 2015 there were two different models of the transponder for US/Europe use. Is this still the case or does the SV-XPNDR-263 suit both regions?
- Is it plug and play (just replace the existing transponder) with my Skyview System or do I have to change or add something (e.g. 2nd GPS Antenna or does it take the signal from the existing GPS Antenna, Change of existing GPS Antenna to any newer model etc.)

Thanks,
Michel

 

[PaulSS]

It would be best if you said what kit you already have.

Under the upcoming Swiss rule changes you'll have to have ADSB with a SIL of 3. This means you'll need the SV-GPS-2020 and not the cheaper 250 (which is SIL 1 only).

ADS-L will not count and is, nevertheless, on 868MHz, which is not supported by the Dynon ADSB units.

The Dynon ADSB works on 1090 MHz and 978 MHZ. Most of the places in Europe do not have a 978 facility and it is used in the USA mostly below 10000' and for traffic, weather etc. In Europe you'll see ADS-L and the 'full fat' 1090 ADSB, which is traffic only and not weather etc.

So, if you already have a Skyview then depending on what transponder you currently have you may just have to fit the 2020 GPS antenna, which will then give a certified GPS signal to the Mode S extended squitter and give the ADSB Out (with SIL 3) that you need.

The Dynon transponders do not do ADSB Out AND In. You'll need a separate receiver to get ADSB In (which can easily be connected to a serial port of the SkyView and display on your maps......as well as WIFI to iPads etc).

 

[Rhino]

The SV-XPNDR-263 works in both regions, and uses the same connections as previous models. It is plug and play with the Skyview, and can use any suitable position source, including the SV-GPS-2020.

As for the upcoming requirements PaulSS mentioned, if you aren't already using the SV-GPS-2020 as a position source, you'll have to insure whatever you are using is SIL 3 compliant.

 

[Michel from Switzerland]

My faut, here is what I have:

Skyview 10"
GPS-250
SV-XPNDR-262 (Class 2)

That means, if I change the GPS receiver to the GPS-2020 and configure the Skyview to SIL3 I will be able to comply with the demand of ADS-B Out on 1090mhz? That would be a rather easy install.

 

[jakej]

“That means, if I change the GPS receiver to the GPS-2020 and configure the Skyview to SIL3 I will be able to comply with the demand of ADS-B Out on 1090mhz? That would be a rather easy install.”

In a word - yes. I’d add a SV-ADSB-472 to give you ADSB traffic IN as well

 

[Michel from Switzerland]

“That means, if I change the GPS receiver to the GPS-2020 and configure the Skyview to SIL3 I will be able to comply with the demand of ADS-B Out on 1090mhz? That would be a rather easy install.”

In a word - yes. I’d add a SV-ADSB-472 to give you ADSB traffic IN as well

Thanks for the clarification. I use already a Stratux for IN and OUT. But I assume that FAA CH wouldn't accept a mobile solution. Therefore I go the way with the new GPS mouse to comply the future regulation and for Traffic IN I will continue to use the Stratux.

 

[PaulSS]

Stratux is ADSB In only. You may well be able to connect a FTDI USB to serial dongle and pipe the traffic to a serial port on your SkyView (this is the way PilotAware used to do it....and still can on the older units).

The GPS 250 can be used on your 262 to transmit ADSB Out but only SIL 1. As Jake said, it is a simple matter of swapping the 250 for a 2020 to give you SIL 3 ADSB Out.

ADSB In could use your Stratux (as above) or a 472 would integrate nicely.

 

[Rhino]

...That means, if I change the GPS receiver to the GPS-2020 and configure the Skyview to SIL3...

SIL is a function of your position source, not the Skyview, so you don't configure it there. In the Skyview, you just set what position source the system is using.