Checklists

vlittle

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A suggestion for how the checklists are displayed on the SkyView screens: Highlight the checklist line and use the scroll wheel to move up and down. This makes it easier to keep your place in the list.

Vern
 

jauen

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Maybe something else to consider...Filemaker can handle the conversion and the database can run in any browser. Never used it myself. Just providing as a lead.
 

n456ts

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I would think this would be better as a web based tool.  I could make a CGI script...  (I'm out of touch with the latest and greatest). 
 

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Just a quick note that our documentation for this tool has been updated. http://downloads.dynonavionics.com
 

n456ts

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Just a quick note that our documentation for this tool has been updated. http://downloads.dynonavionics.com

This version won't work on Mac. Same error as reply #33.
 

dnick23

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What is the possibility of someone creating a "syntax checker" for the Checklist File that can be run on a "home computer"  (Mac and PC) so we do not have to carry a portable computer to the airport and guess what is wrong?  (It should be able to identify improper UTF-8 format.)
 

dynonsupport

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We have an Excel spreadsheet now to create checklists that does syntax checking and saves direct to a UTF-8 file. Grab it off our downloads page. PC only for now, but we're seeing if we can make it Mac compatible.
 

mmarien

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I was excited to see checklists in version 14 so I took to opportunity of the warmer weather to pull my plane out of the snow bank and scrap the frost off Skyview to update to ver 14 and install some checklists. I just used my old checklist that I had in Word and pasted it into the sample checklist that is available for download. I was a bit disappointed that I lost the formatting but after an hour of experimenting I came up with a way to mimic my old format. I thought I'd pass on a couple of tricks that I discovered. First my old printed checklist:

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On the first attempt the colons didn't line up. All the leading spaces are ignored which made for difficult deciphering.

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After a few attempts: Voilà

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The trick was to add the '|' character to the start of the line. It seems to be a non printing character but holds a place so that the spaces aren't ignored. I didn't try any other characters.

Code:
CHKLST0.TITLE, Engine Start
CHKLST0.LINE1,
CHKLST0.LINE2, Pre-Start
CHKLST0.LINE3,
CHKLST0.LINE4, |          Baggage: Secure
CHKLST0.LINE5, |    Pass Briefing: Belts and Canopies
CHKLST0.LINE6, |  Emergency Equip: Fire Ext/First Aid/ELT
I spent a lot of time squeezing the text into the two column printed checklist I had. The 31/40 character limit in Skyview will take some additional reformatting to get it to look right. I think I'll take the challenge to completely rewrite my checklists for Skyview.

If I have one complaint, I would have to agree with Vern-X in that the list could use a replacement for my thumb to keep track of where you are in the list. Something similar to scrolling through the checklist titles would be nice. Also how about some color. Red emergency titles would make them easy to find although prefixing EMERGENCY also works well.

Everyone probably found this second trick. To add blank lines to the checklist titles, leave a gap in the numbering. I deleted a number of titles and ended up with blank lines. Hmm. More formatting ideas. A blank line would nicely separate takeoff from landing checklists.

Code:
CHKLST7.TITLE, Shut-Down
CHKLST7.LINE1,
CHKLST7.LINE2,        ELT Check: Listen on 121.50
CHKLST7.LINE3,           Lights: OFF
CHKLST7.LINE4,  Ignition Switch: OFF
CHKLST7.LINE5,           P-Mags: OFF
CHKLST7.LINE6,      Flight Time: Record
CHKLST7.LINE7,    Master Switch: OFF

CHKLST17.TITLE, EMERGENCY: LIGHT SIGNALS
CHKLST17.LINE1,
CHKLST17.LINE2, TYPE/COLOR  ON GROUND IN-FLIGHT
CHKLST17.LINE3,

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mmarien

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I gave the Excel spreadsheet a try but not that familiar with Excel so came up with a CheckList Editor I put together with Visual Studio.

It reads checklist format and outputs in UTF-8. It renumbers the entire file on output so changes to the file are automatically renumbered. The sections can be moved up or down in the file. It uses the standard textedit control so has all the cut/copy and paste functions. When I copied and pasted from Word it converted it correctly to UTF-8 format.

It mimics Skyview so any whitespace at the start of the line is ignored when the checklist file is opened. Formatting can be accomplished using the "|" character at the start of the line as shown below. There is a line at the 31st or 40th character (menu selected) to show if the text will fit the Skyview screen.

It also has a menu item to add the current date and time at the bottom of the file.

Available here if anybody wants to give it a try: http://www.digitalmapping.sk.ca/chkList/ChkLstEditor.html

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S5_aero

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I wanted to try your CheckList Editor but when i run Setup.exe the process is stoped by antivirus program and the file is beeing deleted.
 

mmarien

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I wanted to try your CheckList Editor but when i run Setup.exe the process is stoped by antivirus program and the file is beeing deleted.
Hmmm. That's pretty aggressive antivirus software. My program is created with Microsoft Visual Studio C# Express so it should be clean of any viruses. My system is clean. I use Microsoft Security Essentials. Definitions are jan.31.2016

Can you whitelist Setup.exe? The only other thing I can suggest is turn off the antivirus for the install. Try it. If you don't like it, you can uninstall it. or let the antivirus delete it.
 

Tuiliere

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Hello Dynon,

Any update about the Excel Checklist creator for Mac ?
I tried the V4 but when I press the save button, the message "microsoft visual basic" appear and I can't save the file.
 

bwok

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A suggestion for the developers at Dynon...

Any chance of having an option to turn on capability to tick checklist items off/skip?

Best way not to miss anything and if youre going to skip an item best thing is it should take you back to the missed items!
Great for safety..
 

mmarien

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I second the option of marking the checklist item even if it's just to highlight the line with the cursor as I go thru the list.
 

dynonsupport

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Dynon Avionics Technical Support heard heard this request several times and submitted a request for this feature enhancement.

A suggestion for the developers at Dynon...

Any chance of having an option to turn on capability to tick checklist items off/skip?

Best way not to miss anything and if youre going to skip an item best thing is it should take you back to the missed items!
Great for safety..
 

curseplatt

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I've just downloaded and tried v5 on a Mac with the same "runtime error" when trying to save for the checklist export. Is anyone having success with a Mac and this process?
 

dynonsupport

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The excel tool uses functions only available on windows and we haven't been able to find the time to work on a Mac version. You'll need to edit by hand or find a windows machine.
 
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