Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B

[dynonsupport]

Yes, Skyview can pull the flight plan from the 430. It will treat all points as if it is direct between each point.

 

[Dynon101]

>Yes, Skyview can pull the flight plan from the 430. It will treat all points as if it is direct between each point.

Can you please walk (type) me through the process?

If I have a GTN650 and I have entered the flight plan and approach into the GTN...I know I have to select the HSI source to "GPS2" (I assume that this is what I have to do) then I presume the SV will get its GPS source from its own GPS receiver (and 5 Hertz update) and that will drive the moving terrain map and synthetic vision however it will display waypoints on the map by reference to the GTN??? 

Will SV also display holding patterns and procedure turns using pretty colors and curved lines or will they just be dots with connecting strait lines?

Will the GTN waypoints "populate" the SV flight plan waypoint list?

If so...and if I have my iPad connected to SV via WIFI and I am running ForeFlight will SV have the option of pushing the flight plan into my iPad?

Do you have (or know of) a video that can discuss the GTN -SV interface?

You need a "scratching head" emoticon...until then...these will do!!! 

: : : :-/ : : :

 

[rogersmart]

Yes, Skyview can pull the flight plan from the 430. It will treat all points as if it is direct between each point.

Can you give me the sequence to do this. I understand the direct between each point if the SV Flight plan was used as the HSI source. I just don't know the key strokes to clone the 430 flight plan waypoints to the SV flight plan.

 

[rogersmart]

arpb wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 6:15am:
Since the Dynon has the 430 flight plan information displayed, is there a way to “crossfill” that information into the Dynon flight plan so it does not have to be manually entered?

Yes, Skyview can pull the flight plan from the 430. It will treat all points as if it is direct between each point.

Can you give me the sequence to do this.  I understand the direct between each point if the SV Flight plan was used as the HSI source.  I just don't know the key strokes to clone the 430 flight plan waypoints to the SV flight plan.

Since I have not received a response on how to import the flight plan to SV flight plan, I went to the hanger to try to figure this out.  It is quite easy to display the 430 flight plan in Skyview on the IFR flight plan tab, and display the 430 flight plan on the Map by selecting it in the FP menu.  However I could not figure out how to transfer the flight plan from the 430 to the Skyview flight plan.  Dynon's first response to my original question seems to state that this is possible. This will save having to enter the flight plan twice.  Can someone help me with the keystroke sequence.  Thanks.

 

[thibault]

arpb,

I think you are already doing what you want.

If, you are trying to navigate by and display on the Skyview map the flight plan you entered into the 430, then you have what you want.  There is no need to have that data also loaded into the "Skyview Flight Plan".  Assuming you have the Skyview ARINC box installed and select the HSI source to be the 430 and the Skyview flight plan page has the external ARINC GPS navigator selected as the flight plan source (like the User's Guide describes on pages 7-46 and 7-47), you are good to go.

The map, autopilot etc will all then show and use the 430 data.

 

[meyerflyer]

arpb,

I think you are already doing what you want.

If, you are trying to navigate by and display on the Skyview map the flight plan you entered into the 430, then you have what you want.  There is no need to have that data also loaded into the "Skyview Flight Plan".  Assuming you have the Skyview ARINC box installed and select the HSI source to be the 430 and the Skyview flight plan page has the external ARINC GPS navigator selected as the flight plan source (like the User's Guide describes on pages 7-46 and 7-47), you are good to go.

The map, autopilot etc will all then show and use the 430 data.

That sounds great until you lose the GPS data from GTN650 or 430 because it failed for some reason and then you have to reload Skyview's flight plan in a hurry. Be nice to have that back up capability - easily loaded. The reason I say this is because it happened to me with the GTN650. I have since had the GTN 650 sent in for repair for the GPS Signal loss problem so hopefully that won't happen anymore.

 

[swatson999]

Unless there's something in SV that I don't understand (which is very possible), the SV and the GNS/GTN boxes treat flight plans differently.

For one thing, SV's flight planning is all point-to-point using the aviation database items, whereas my GNS430W understands and can load approaches, departure procedures and transitions, including holds and procedure turns (don't know about DME arc approaches, they're rather uncommon around here).

Granted, ALL GPS navigation is, at its heart, point-to-point, but the *data* for, say, approach is stored in the ARINC database from the government as a series of records of type AP (IIRC), with each segment of the approach in a separate record, organized by sequence number.  That's why you can pull up the menu for the destination airport and use Select Approach, by name, and the entire approach is added to the flight plan.

SV has no such capability (yet).  All it is doing is *displaying* what the GNS is sending it...and I doubt it is sending (and SV unpacking and displaying) ARINC-style sets of records.

Could be wrong though...

 

[rogersmart]

Yes, Skyview can pull the flight plan from the 430. It will treat all points as if it is direct between each point.

Thanks for each of your comments on this. I think we all agree that Skyview would fly the plan differently if there were procedures involved other than point to point. I just thought since Skyview can display the 430 flight plan, then it should be able to crossfill it to the Skyview Flight plan just as it can do with a Foreflight plan. Also the response above from Dynon to my question was "yes"
Personally, I will continue enter my flight plan in both the 430 and Skyview for redundancy and maybe Dynon can put this on it's future enhancement list.

 

[rogersmart]

Enhancement Suggestions
1. Add Head Wind component to wind display.  1st line the same, 352/16.  Second line add headwind component,  X06/H13.  Seems to be a simple calculation and provides a nice bit of information.

2. Add a flight plan selection to import or clone a flight plan from IFR GPS tab to the Skyview Flight Plan.  It would seem that since Dynon can list the flight plan and even plot it on the map, that Skyview could transfer the waypoints From the IFR GPS tab to the Skyview plan.  This saves keying it twice.   This is NOT for primary use of Skyview to fly but,  just to have as a backup.  I understand the Skyview would only fly point to point if it was needed.

 

[rogersmart]

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[rogersmart]

Left out a sentence for suggestion 1.
X could be replaced with R or L for right or left and H would be replace with T if you have a tailwind.

 

[GalinHdz]

Left out a sentence for suggestion 1.
X could be replaced with R or L for right or left and H would be replace with T if you have a tailwind.

Both are already indicated by the direction of the arrow.

 

[cmgolden]

For touch screens, what if the vector changed to the two X/Y components with a tap (with two corresponding numerical values)? (See the G1000 implementation)

 

[mmarien]

Add Head Wind component to wind display.

Head/tail wind is east to figure. It's the difference between TAS and GS. What would be handy is button to turn a head wind into a tail wind.

 

[jwilbur]

2. Add a flight plan selection to import or clone a flight plan from IFR GPS tab to the Skyview Flight Plan. It would seem that since Dynon can list the flight plan and even plot it on the map, that Skyview could transfer the waypoints From the IFR GPS tab to the Skyview plan. This saves keying it twice. This is NOT for primary use of Skyview to fly but, just to have as a backup. I understand the Skyview would only fly point to point if it was needed.

Dynon, Has there been any development on this feature?