Electronic stability and protection for Skyview

[johnsteichen]

Are you guys working on some version of electronic stability and protection ala Garmin.?
I know that is a dirty word. but it would be interesting to have skyview monitor our attitude while we hand fly the airplane. sooner or later I think this is the coming thing with autopilot safety. It would be a great competitive feature of skyview.  Wow.

 

[skysailor]

Only if it can be an option. I fly high performance aerobatic aircraft and enjoy the large flight envelope they provide. I do not want the autopilot to be involved unless it is cruise flight and is selected to ON while operating in the modes I desire.

 

[vlittle]

Are you guys working on some version of electronic stability and protection ala Garmin.?
I know that is a dirty word. but it would be interesting to have skyview monitor our attitude while we hand fly the airplane. sooner or later I think this is the coming thing with autopilot safety. It would be a great competitive feature of skyview.  Wow.

Electronic stability control is just a small step in the direction of elimination of CFIT.  It's just a gimmick IMHO.

NASA's Armstrong Flight Research Center will be demonstrating it's Ground Collision Avoidance System (GCAS) at Oshkosh this year.  It uses a high resolution terrain database and WAAS GPS to detect impending collision with terrain, then uses the autopilot to fly the aircraft out of danger.

The NASA demo, as I recall, will be a flight sim using the very cool Iris Dynamics control loading flight yoke to demonstrate the physical forces in the flight controls during the avoidance manoeuvres.  It should be a fun demo.

BTW, the F16 version of the terrain avoidance manoeuvre is to pull back and climb straight up!

Vern

 

[johnsteichen]

The stability and attitude monitoring I had in mind was one in which, the system would be alerted by an unusual attitude of the aircraft and issue, first an alert, and then intervene in the case of an unresponsive pilot. Sickness or incompacitation. comes to mind. I was not thinking about CFIT

 

[vlittle]

Are you guys working on some version of electronic stability and protection ala Garmin.?
I know that is a dirty word. but it would be interesting to have skyview monitor our attitude while we hand fly the airplane. sooner or later I think this is the coming thing with autopilot safety. It would be a great competitive feature of skyview.  Wow.

Electronic stability control is just a small step in the direction of elimination of CFIT.  It's just a gimmick IMHO.

NASA's Armstrong Flight Research Center will be demonstrating it's Ground Collision Avoidance System (GCAS) at Oshkosh this year.  It uses a high resolution terrain database and WAAS GPS to detect impending collision with terrain, then uses the autopilot to fly the aircraft out of danger.

The NASA demo, as I recall, will be a flight sim using the very cool Iris Dynamics control loading flight yoke to demonstrate the physical forces in the flight controls during the avoidance manoeuvres.  It should be a fun demo.

BTW, the F16 version of the terrain avoidance manoeuvre is to pull back and climb straight up!

Vern

OK, here are some videos showing NASA's GCAS.  One of my companies (Iris Dynamics) provided the control-loading flight sim yoke to NASA for the R&D and provided support at Oshkosh.

http://youtu.be/_dvugGoPr8w
http://youtu.be/Erz4cdRNWZI

The point here is that the software could run in the SV system and engage the autopilot if the pilot does not respond. Now that is a feature that can save lives.

Vern

 

[airguy]

The point here is that the software could run in the SV system and engage the autopilot if the pilot does not respond. Now that is a feature that can save lives.

Vern

Nope, not unless the software also can squawk 7700 and get the airplane down and stopped on a runway for medical attention. We don't typically have autothrottles installed on small aircraft, so the incapacitated pilot is still done for as soon as it runs out of fuel.

I'm not saying the feature itself is not worth pursuing, but let's not get carried away with "It saves lives!" or "Do it for the children!" or some other such drama.