IFR Approaches solely using the Dynon SkyView?

Jeff1

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I have a Garmin 530 W and a Dynon 10” and 7”. I can select an approach on the Garmin and fly it. I was thinking that if I got chart data from Seattle Avionics that I would have a second source to fly an IFR approach. I am beginning to think that this isn’t possible. The SkyView presents 3D imaging with obstacles and terrain. I can go to “INFO,” and put in an airport and fly direct to it. I can pull up all the approaches to the field. Even though there are two bearing needles, I don’t know how to have them point to a selected navaid. i can see the approach chart, but don’t know if I can use the SkyView to fly it. There is a source switch on the SkyView and on the autopilot that illuminates Garmin or SkyView on the SkyView. How do I select something for the SkyView to navigate to?
 

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You can display the approach plates on the SV.
You can crossfire the flight plan from the 530W to SV which is what you get with the ARINC module, and the HSI functions etc.

You can not use the SV gps/nav/mapping feature for IFR approaches. Sure you could build an approach, but its not legal and more would I do it in IMC. If the 530W craps out on you one day and you are in IMC, the SV would save the day but you would need to be very careful building any approach even in an emergency. In fact more so with stress.
 

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Skyview is not a certified navigator so it's not legal - but in an emergency you might be able to get down using the approach plates (from Seattle Avionics) which show you georeferenced over the course for localizer information, and fly the non-precision step-down altitudes. I don't think I'll want to try it though.
 

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Expanding on what DBRV10 posted, you can select the approach on the G530W (Certified Navigator) while displaying the information on the HSI of your SkyView PFD screen. You can use the Seattle Avionics chart for "situational awareness" but you must still navigate using the G530W information.

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Thanks to all. I was assuming that chart data from Seattle Avioics and a source selector to fly with Garmin OR SkyView meant That each one was a source For navigation. I question my decision to see the value of updated chart data As a subscription from Seattle Avionics since Obstacles and terrain rarely change.
 

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Anyone tell me what the two needles Available on the Skyview point to and how to select a source? ie VOR
 

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Thanks to all. I was assuming that chart data from Seattle Avioics and a source selector to fly with Garmin OR SkyView meant That each one was a source For navigation. I question my decision to see the value of updated chart data As a subscription from Seattle Avionics since Obstacles and terrain rarely change.
They are both sources for navigation - but Skyview is VFR only. If you want to fly IFR then your other source needs to be a certified IFR navigator.
 

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Anyone tell me what the two needles Available on the Skyview point to and how to select a source? ie VOR
Depending on how your system is set up and configured there are several ways you can do this.

In my case (SkyView with ARINC429 & G430W) I press the CDI button on the 430W which changes the "source" being displayed on my SkyView HSI from GPS to VLOC. The SkyView HSI "needle" color changes from magenta (GPS) to green (VOR/ILS/LOC) and it also shows the source type on the right of the HSI. With a Seattle Avionics Chart being displayed on the PFD it would look something like this but with the correct active frequency being shown on the SkyView PFD:

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You can assign functions to the pointer needles. They act as RMI needles in the HSI display. My IFR navigator is a Garmin GNS480. It has VOR/LOC/GS capability along with RNAV enroute and LNAV, LNAV+V, and LPV approaches. I assign the HSI to the flight plan source in IFR which would be the GNS 480 GPS enroute. The first pointer I assign to the VOR output of that radio so it always points to the VOR selected in the GNS 480. This is always displayed even if the GNS 480 is not using the VOR for navigation. My second pointer follows the flight plan from my backup EFIS. As mentioned above, when the GNS 480 changes from GPS navigation to VOR/ILS for an approach, the HSI display will change automatically from magenta to green to alert you to this change of guidance. This feature is enabled in Skyview settings. On the missed approach, the GNS 480 will automatically shift back to primary GPS guidance. When this occurs the HSI display reverts to magenta. In the picture you can see Pointer One (yellow) is just visible under the Skyview magenta HSI showing the flight plan from the 480 as both are on the same route at this time. Since I am VFR the HSI is being driven by the Skyview with the GNS 480 as backup. Pointer Two (orange) is pointing to the Rome (RMG) VOR shown on the GNS 480.

I run a firmware version one behind the current so that I can have the different color pointers and the original Skyview VNAV display as I find them far more intuitive. If you are running current firmware you will still have both pointers but both will be blue and your VNAV path will not display until 5 minutes prior to top of descent and displays differently.
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