KX155/165-KN62/64 to HS34-D180

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Good afternoon all,
writing from europe;

my questions:
1) as in the subject, i'm planning to link a couple of radio and a DME to
a HS34-D180; are those models approved-tested-working?
(this question arises from an Aug. 9 Dynon Support answer to a
similar Skyview question, where the answer is "none of the older King
Nav/Coms will work with ..." and from a local_authority unapproved
status for the SL30); can you please say a definitive word?

2) once the answer to 1) is yes, I understand D180 display DME data:
may I hide the KN62-64 somewhere, driving it from the KX while, in
turn, it drives the D180 DME display? and if yes, do you have, by chance,
a wiring diagram?

3) is there a way to switch DME1/NAV1 and DME2/NAV2 on the D180?
in the event, do you have a wiring diagram?

Going to buy the D180-HS34-AP74 nonetheless, but I would like to use
this combination

thank you very much
marco

 

[dynonsupport]

In short, the Bendix-King radios do not connect to our equipment.  The SL30 does connect easily.

You can switch NAV sources on the D180. The HS34 adds dedicated buttons to make it a little easier, so it is a good choice. Instructions for connecting and setting up the D180, HS34, and Nav sources can be found in the D180 Installation Guide, found at http://docs.dynonavionics.com.

 

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Thank you very much for your fast answer

In short, the Bendix-King radios do not connect to our equipment.  The SL30 does connect easily.

amen to that;
but I need a suggestion for a working DME

You can switch NAV sources on the D180. The HS34 adds dedicated buttons to make it a little easier, so it is a good choice. Instructions for connecting and setting up the D180, HS34, and Nav sources can be found in the D180 Installation Guide, found at http://docs.dynonavionics.com.

thanks again
marco

 

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Thank you very much for your fast answer    

In short, the Bendix-King radios do not connect to our equipment.  The SL30 does connect easily.

amen to that;
but I need a suggestion for a working DME

good morning again

just to avoid a wrong purchase, I would really like a suggestion for a
working DME (working means shown on the display, obviously)

thank you
marco

 

[Brantel]

The only DME that I know of that might work with the D180-HS34 would be one that can talk over the ARINC-429 interface or the 0-8v (40nm/mv) analog interface.

Dynon shows a screen shot on their website that has a DME indication on it. Not sure how they came about getting this shot but you might ask them:

 

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The only DME that I know of that might work with the D180-HS34 would be one that can talk over the ARINC-429 interface or the 0-8v (40nm/mv) analog interface.

I know of only two GA - DME systems: the BK one, which, according to
Dynon, does not work, and the Narco one, of which I know nothing;

Dynon shows a screen shot on their website that has a DME indication on it.

that's the start of my search

 Not sure how they came about getting this shot but you might ask them:

already done, but no joy

thanks
marco

 

[dynonsupport]

Marco - I guess I was hoping some other builders might have a suggestion. I don't think too many people buy separate DMEs anymore, and instead receive DME data from a GPS.

 

[khorton]

Marco - I guess I was hoping some other builders might have a suggestion.  I don't think too many people buy separate DMEs anymore, and instead receive DME data from a GPS.  

But, if it is distance to waypoint from a GPS that is being displayed, it is not DME, and hopefully GPS distance is not being labeled as DME.  

DME refers very specifically to a distance from a Distance Measuring Equipment device.  Sometimes DME values are pretty much identical to info from a GPS, other times there may be very significant differences, like on a VOR approach with an off-field VOR and the missed approach point defined by a DME value.  The DME value is increasing as you approach the airport, but the GPS distance to the runway will be decreasing.

 

[dynonsupport]

Marco,
Any DME that outputs the standard 0-8V analog voltage will work with the HS34. We don't have any specific experience with the KN62/64, but if it outputs a voltage, it should work.

In this case, the KX155/165 won't work though. So you could show DME on the D180, but you'd still need a separate CDI/HSI head.

We created the screen shot with DME on it by using a simple voltage since that is all the DME puts out. We've sold over a thousand HS34's, and we don't know of a single person that has actually hooked a DME to it, which is why we don't have many suggestions for you. If you have a link to an installation manual for a DME receiver, we'd be happy to look at it for you and let you know if we think it will work.

 

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First of all, sorry for this late post, busy elsewhere;

Marco,
Any DME that outputs the standard 0-8V analog voltage will work with the HS34. We don't have any specific experience with the KN62/64, but if it outputs a voltage, it should work.

In this case, the KX155/165 won't work though. So you could show DME on the D180, but you'd still need a separate CDI/HSI head.

planned in this way

We created the screen shot with DME on it by using a simple voltage since that is all the DME puts out. We've sold over a thousand HS34's, and we don't know of a single person that has actually hooked a DME to it,

and so, now you know how an old dinosaur I am;
btw, what kevin wrote was exactly the reason I started querying about
true DME;

which is why we don't have many suggestions for you. If you have a link to an installation manual for a DME receiver, we'd be happy to look at it for you and let you know if we think it will work.

many thanks for this kind offer, and yes, I've a KN62-64 install
manual, but (as for now) I've decided for a D10A/AP74 with a separate
King stack, so no more need to hook up the two systems (but many
thanks again, nonetheless);

marco

P.S. from the number of views on the thread, it seems there is still
some interest in non-G avionics