Seattle Avionics plates on Moving Map?
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There's a specific subscription for Seattle Avionics on Skyview (Classic, Touch, and HDX). If you can stand the pain of downloading the "approach plates & airport diagrams" .duc file over SA's database manager to your USB drives, you can display approach plates and airport diagrams that are geo-referenced on your Skyview displays. But, I warn you, it is 4,000 plus files in that database. And it takes a very long time to download, even with 1GB+ broadband. It is a PITA with frequent do-overs and frozen screens. If you don't have a dedicated Windows PC, it's even worse. I just use the aeronautical data files and sectionals/IFR low on my Skyview Map display. For geo-referenced plates and airport diagrams, I use an iPad with Foreflight.
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Yes, I know about Seattle Avionics. Have a subscription and use that feature often. But I have not found a way to display an approach plate on the moving map. Granted, it does display a geo-referenced aircraft icon, but it is not a fully featured moving map. (With the other layers on the current configured moving map displayed above, below and to the side of the plate as shown below). What I am asking about is what is displayed, for example, in iFlyEFB when you call up an approach plate. Outside the plate boundaries, this display should show all the data elements that are on the standard moving map. Optimally, overlaid on the plate, (within the plate borders), it could displsy ADS-B traffic, and maybe NEXTRAD weather....
Is there a way to get the same, (or similar), display on the moving map in Skyview? On either HDX or Touch?
Is there a way to get the same, (or similar), display on the moving map in Skyview? On either HDX or Touch?
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RVDan
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The answer is yes; you can display the geolocated approach plate on the moving map. it works pretty well. IIRC, the steps are; Info, enter the airport identifier, select the Procedures tab, then select the approach and then select display. It is something like that. The key is that the procedure has to be selected in the info display. It works the same in classic Skyview and HDX. I hope that helps.
A separate trick is that once you land on an airport, you can press and hold the right knob and it will bring up the airport taxi diagram geolocated with the aircraft on it.
A separate trick is that once you land on an airport, you can press and hold the right knob and it will bring up the airport taxi diagram geolocated with the aircraft on it.
Marc_J._Zeitlin
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This does NOT display the approach plate as an overlay on the moving map, as Foreflight does - it merely displays the geolocated approach plate in the moving map part of the display. Charly is aware of THIS functionality, but he (and others) are looking for more - the ability to see the plate overlaid on the moving map. Dynon does NOT have this functionality.
In my COZY MKIV, with two screens, I keep the moving map displayed on the right screen and the approach plate on the left, so I have SA from both, but it would be nice to have it all on one screen, and in a Berkut, such as Charly's, where there's only room for one screen, you can't have both moving map and approach plate. For those folks, it would be necessary to have the moving map on Foreflight on a separate device.
Similarly, while the airport diagram is geolocated, it is NOT displayed on top of the moving map (and due to the scale, there's no reason for wanting THAT).
airguy
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The Dynon also does not display traffic overlaid on the procedure drawing - so I do as Marc said, I leave the procedure up on my left (main) screen, and a zoom on the right screen moving map to about 3 miles for traffic near me as I'm on the approach.
Marc_J._Zeitlin
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Yeah, this is another thing that would be nice to have (although there would need to be a simple toggle to turn traffic on or off in busy airspace). There have been times on approaches where I wanted traffic situational awareness directly (not over on the other screen, and having the traffic (either on the same or a different approach, or just nearby) displayed on the plate would be helpful. Yes, it's in the PFD, which is there all the time, but that only shows stuff pretty much in front of you - if someone's 3 miles on your left on an intercept course, you really can't see that on the PFD.
This is a good point.
Marc,
Yes, this is as I suspected. I posted this on the slight chance that there was a menu setting or a setup configuration option, that I was unaware of, that might implement this functionality. In my Berkut, there is no room for a second screen, so I can't use the technique Air Guy suggests. I have to have one half of the screen dedicated as a PFD, so on the other half I have to choose between the plate by itself, or a moving map with just the flight plan. I end up displaying the PFD and Plate on my HDX screen, and the plate overlaid on a moving map on my stand-alone Android device, in iFlyEFB (as shown above).
It would be a welcome addition to the Skyview system, as it is a glaring omission to display the plate, (even though it is georeferenced), without all the other functionality available on the moving map. As you suggested, If implemented, a toggle, or config setting, to control clutter that would interfere with critical approach plate data would be important.
Perhaps the Dynon folks who participate in the monthly Future Skyview Features board meetings will read this and include this in their agenda for an upcoming meeting!
Yes, this is as I suspected. I posted this on the slight chance that there was a menu setting or a setup configuration option, that I was unaware of, that might implement this functionality. In my Berkut, there is no room for a second screen, so I can't use the technique Air Guy suggests. I have to have one half of the screen dedicated as a PFD, so on the other half I have to choose between the plate by itself, or a moving map with just the flight plan. I end up displaying the PFD and Plate on my HDX screen, and the plate overlaid on a moving map on my stand-alone Android device, in iFlyEFB (as shown above).
It would be a welcome addition to the Skyview system, as it is a glaring omission to display the plate, (even though it is georeferenced), without all the other functionality available on the moving map. As you suggested, If implemented, a toggle, or config setting, to control clutter that would interfere with critical approach plate data would be important.
Perhaps the Dynon folks who participate in the monthly Future Skyview Features board meetings will read this and include this in their agenda for an upcoming meeting!
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Marc_J._Zeitlin
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"Perhaps", as a friend used to be fond of saying, "monkeys will fly out of my butt"
. I've been suggesting about the simplest thing in the world to implement - have the list of "nearest" airports update distance order in real time for ...hmmm... 6 - 7 years now - something that the Garmin 195 Handheld GPS I bought used in 1998 could do (and did). Haven't done that, either... I like the Skyview a lot, but boy, they have some strange inability to implement the simplest bug fixes and upgrades at times...