Seattle Avionics vs Garmin GPS175 published appoaches

cbretana

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Marc,

Your last post, (as well as Swatson999s), as you both suggested, does indeed clarify things. My mistake was assuming that SA approach plates are the same as Garmin Approach plates.

If you actually made that point in an earlier post, and I missed it or did not get the message, again, my apologies.

I have done some research on this in the past few days, the FAA position on qhat the requirements are necessary to fly under IFR in IMC, the aircraft must have a
TSO-C129, TSO-C196, TSO-C145, or TSO-C146 compliant GPS (AC 20-138). The FAA refers to these as "suitable RNAV systems". It does not have to have a current Nav Database. A current Nav database is, however, required to fly certain GPS approaches.

Relevant to my question, however is that I can not find, anywhere, that the "current Nav database" has to reside in the same box (component) that is providing the GPS position data. But if the only other sources of approach plate data consists only of graphical images of the published plates, then as you said, it is obvious why they chose not to head down that road.

Again my apologies for the frustration expressed in my earlier post, but the answer clearly has nothing to do with the fact that Skyview is not a certified IFR navigator.
 
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I have done some research on this in the past few days, the FAA position on qhat the requirements are necessary to fly under IFR in IMC, the aircraft must have a
TSO-C129, TSO-C196, TSO-C145, or TSO-C146 compliant GPS (AC 20-138). The FAA refers to these as "suitable RNAV systems". It does not have to have a current Nav Database. A current Nav database is, however, required to fly certain GPS approaches.

Relevant to my question, however is that I can not find, anywhere, that the "current Nav database" has to reside in the same box (component) that is providing the GPS position data. But if the only other sources of approach plate data consists only of graphical images of the published plates, then as you said, it is obvious why they chose not to head down that road.
I don't think you're interpreting that correctly. The current (certified) database has to be accessible by the certified GPS system.

I don't know what you're getting at here...you seem to want to somehow use your Garmin whatever certified GPS navigator for position only, and somehow use some external database for the approach. I don't understand what you're trying to do.

Just use the proper, current database in your certified GPS navigator. What seems to be the issue with doing that?

5-6. Navigation Database.
a. For all combined sensor/navigator GNSS equipment, the navigation database is an essential component for the equipment to perform its intended function (see paragraphs 7-1.c and 19-8). Detailed guidance pertaining to the navigation database can be found in AC 20-153 (latest revision).
b. For GNSS equipment to perform its intended function the database configuration, as specified by the equipment manufacturer’s data quality requirements, must be consistent with the equipment capability. Procedures the GNSS equipment does not support should not be accessible to the flight crew (see paragraphs 12-7, 12-8 and 15-5).
5-6.1 Database Installation Instructions.
The TSOA/LODA installation instructions/manual must contain a limitation identifying the requirements for the navigation database. This limitation will also be included in the AFM(S)/RFM(S).

AC 20-138 Airworthiness Approval of Positioning and Navigation Systems

For Garmin, see this page: https://fly.garmin.com/fly-garmin/support/type2-loa
 
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