Zaon MX1090 ADS-B

[N100MG]

Will the new Zaon ADS-B Be compatible with Skyview?

I've been waiting for the Dynon ADS-B but seem to recall that Skyview can only have 1 traffic input so I'd have to choose between Zaon and ADS-B. However the new Zaon product shows connection solutions for Garmin that allow date from ADS-B and Zaon to be displayed.

 

[dynonsupport]

The Zaon device is a 1090 traffic only device. No weather.

If you have our transponder, the only advantage of having this device is when you're not in an ADS-B area, it will allow you to see Mode-S, 1090ES out planes that have GPS units hooked up. In our experience, this is less than 1% of the GA fleet right now. Lots of airliners are equipped admittedly.

If you don't have our transponder, then you will also see those 1% of planes in ADS-B areas as well.

All that being said, if you really want to use it, you can get data from it while also having our ADS-B box. If you have our transponder it will automatically switch to it when you are not in an ADS-B area. If you don't have our transponder, this will get used as your only traffic source all the time.

 

[chinaone]

Asked ZAON about interfacing the MX1090 to the Skyview as I already have their XRX in the system and it is working great  , and this was there reply:

Good Afternoon,
As of now, the MX1090 does not interface with the Dynon unit.  After the
interface is developed by Dynon, I am sure they will have a simple wiring
diagram to make it work with your Skyview unit.  Thank you for the inquiry.

Glenn
Production Technician
Zaon Flight Systems Inc.
:'(

 

[chinaone]

Any chance that Dynon will spend a few minutes designing the interface wiring?

 

[dynonsupport]

It appears there was some mus-communication somewhere. I spoke with Zaon today and the MX1090 outputs in a format SkyView already supports. There is no software work to be done like Glenn believed, which is good since that would be something that could take months to implement. The wiring is not the hard part.

The device is not for sale yet, and I didn't see a product manual on their website so I can't give any wiring descriptions. It's easy though: You need their serial output wire to go to one of our serial input wires (SkyView has 5). It works just like any other traffic device, including the Zaon XRX. So you need to talk to Zaon and ask them what kind of cables they sell that get you to a bare wire serial output, and then you just hook that to one of our 5 input wires. Set that input to Zaon and it should work.

Again, none of that is a promise since we have not yet tested it.

 

[Skee]

This Zaon MX1090, could this work for us in europe as we dont use UAT.


If i buy your 261 transponder, will it(261) awake adsb stations and then i will recieve tis-b with my zaon mx1090?

as ive understood the SV-XPNDR-26X cannot show traffic on my screen without a added device?

 

[Dynon]

Europe doesn't have ADS-B stations, unfortunately, so the scenario we have here in the US won't work for you.

However, the Zaon MX1090, which I believe outputs in the same TIS format that we can receive from the Zaon XRX, should still be able to report traffic it can see to SkyView. Your major limitation is going to be that that product can only see traffic that is equipped with ADS-B 1090 out, which, isn't very many people, especially in Europe. Here in the US, if you have our transponder, it wakes up the FAA's ADS-B system, which then reports all transponder and ADS-B equipped traffic that it can see to our ADS-B reciever.

 

[Skee]

Europe doesn't have ADS-B stations, unfortunately, so the scenario we have here in the US won't work for you.

Sweden has a Nation covered ADS-B system since 2007 its just that the UAT freq is allocated for other in europe so we dont get weather. europe uses the ICAO VDL Mode 4 standards & DGNSS for weather. how it works no f idea!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillance-broadcast#Worldwide_implementations_of_ADS-B
some other countries do have but not any good coverage yet.
http://www.adaptaeronav.aero/world/europe.htm

However, the Zaon MX1090, which I believe outputs in the same TIS format that we can receive from the Zaon XRX, should still  be able to report traffic it can see to SkyView. Your major limitation is going to be that that product can only see traffic that is equipped with ADS-B 1090 out, which, isn't very many people, especially in Europe. Here in the US, if you have our transponder, it wakes up the FAA's ADS-B system, which then reports all transponder and ADS-B equipped traffic that it can see to our ADS-B reciever.

Great!
Yup only Commercial traffic uses ADS-B here so far, very few have mode S, great thing in Germany you must have a Mode S xpndr to cross some classes of airspaces otherwise its allot of zigzag, so its progressing in europe to.

Thanks for quick response.

 

[jakej]

Maybe we're leading the pack here as all the transponders I've installed for the last 18 months, in Experimental & LSA types, are mostly the Dynon units (mode S) - makes sense here when you consider the price is about the same as a mode C unit & our aviation regulator has mandated (generally speaking)  fitment of mode S for IFR aircraft in most airspace types from February next year.
The Dynon remotely units make good sense, allow more panel space for other avionics & are good value for money given that they also "future proof" the installation.

My .02 cents 

Jake J

Australia