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preid

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I agree one can use a RNAV point 10/7/5 miles from a airport and that will line you up, actually that is exactly what I do, however there is far more that Virtual VOR can do to assist in the cockpit management.
I used virtual VOR on a portable once and it added a great benefit to cockpit management. I completely agree with #16, once used, it is sorely missed when not available.
An example; when flying from Socal and told to fly a heading to avoid Restricted airspace I simply need to think through the process by doing a Direct and waiting for the degress to a known radial to line up than I press Direct to, sure one can create a point and move the cursor there, or stare at the map than do a Direct to, but not needing to do either serves a huge benefit to the Skyview, especially when dealing with busy airspace. If it is hard to do, than I understand there is time constraints, but it really does do more than line up on a runway.
To me, this is a huge "gift" I would like to see added to the firmware in the future.
Thank you!
 

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As an example of the use of Virtual VOR:  I could be flying a direct course with the Auto pilot tracking a GPS course direct to a point.  And select an airport identifier on the Virtual VOR and get a bearing pointer to that airport and a DME.  I would use this when ATC would ask me for my position, I could just reference the tail of the bearing pointer and give them a radial and DME from whatever fix I had selected in the virtual VOR without changing the GPS course I was presently tracking direct to or changing where the AP was going.  Another use is after departure from an airport with the GPS and AP tracking to a destination 600 miles away, by selecting the departure airport on the virtual VOR and ATC asks for present position, you just use the Virtual VOR bearing pointer to tell them your exact radial and DME from the airport.  It is really handy to have this capability.  I guess what is the handy thing I got used to is having a bearing pointer and DEM available without affecting where the GPS was navigating to.  I hope this helps explain why I liked it.  The direct to command will work but is not as handy because often I just want to know bearing and distance to a point but not necessarily want to go there at the present time.  Hope this explains it a little.  Its just what you get used to I guess.  And I don't claim to know how to best use the skyview yet as I never use all its capabilities. :cool:
 

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What GPS system have you used that allows you do do a virtual VOR while not affecting the primary GPS navigation? The ones I'm aware of don't allow this so I'd be interested to research it and see how they do it.
 

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I may be misreading what this means but the MGL avionics GVOR has a primary and secondary. Being it is GPS driven I assume they are both GPS
http://www.mglavionics.com/html/gvor_and_gls.html
 

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To me, that reads like they can only do Virtual VOR's to real VOR's (not airports, runways, or arbitrary points), and when you turn it on, it becomes the primary HSI source (which means your GPS flight plan is now inactive).

If all you want is to report your distance from an airport or a real VOR, our nearest page already gives you rapid information on distance and bearing to all things around you.
 

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Thank you for the response. Really all I want is to turn a knob to center a needle when taken off course by ATC, versus the few button presses I currently need to do. Via flt Plan, and know when i am at a point off a radial, I agree everything else can be done with what is already there
 

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I don't profess to be the best at using all the functions of the Skyview and the Nearest is what I use to do exactly that.
As near as I can remember: been two years since I used it, you could select GPS as the NAV source and get bearing and DME to what ever point you put in the GPS. And the A/P could be engaged to navigate to that point. You could then go to the FLT Page and scroll down to the Virtual VOR menu, Select a VOR Identifer, or a Nav fix or and Airport Identifier and get a digital readout of OBS course to that point and DME generated from the GPS. I can't remember if a bearing pointer was displayed or not but I think it was. The A/P, if engaged in the GPS Nav mode, would continue to navigate to the GPS selected point and the Virtual VOR reading gave a digital readout of course and Distance to a VOR or Fix or Airport depending on what was selected. Nearest, in Skview, will give the same info but I found it handy to have the info displayed on the HSI. Its just my opinion. I like the flexibility of the Skywiew and just need to get used to it I think. Thanks for your interest in reading these posts. :)
 

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Looking to see if this is still on the list. I was vectored to intercept a flyway today in the busy LAX airspace, I made it work by using D-> to the VOR and waiting until it hit the right degrees than pressed direct to.It would have been nice to have the screen it covered while I kept waiting for the degrees, sure dont want to overfly the corridor. Having a virtual VOR would have really helped in the situation.
Sure hope it's still on a list to be added soon! ::)
 

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Still on the list, but don't have any promises to make at the moment.
 

jc2da

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Direct to Display Brightness Settings

I noticed this on my last flight. Would like this considered for a future update.

I notice i do this fairly often on night flights. I wanted to tweak the Auto dim settings. I went to the DIM page, set to Auto, and noticed the display was still too bright. I knew i wanted to adjust the minimum brightness setting.

To do this, i have to hold buttons 7 and 8 to go into the flight setup menu -> set menu -> Display. When you go into the flight setup menu, the brightness goes back up to FULL it seems causing temp blindness.

Anyway, i was thinking it would be nice if we could just directly access those auto brightness parameters without having to go into the setup page and getting blinded. This would be similar to how we can directly go to the Map Menu from the Map page, instead of like before, having to go into the setup menus.

Thanks,
Jae
 

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Oh, datalogging. Not in this release. Buuut, we'll be doing an unusual close-in follow-on release in January which will squeeze that feature in. Thanks for your patience on that one.

:D :D
 

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Oh, datalogging. Not in this release. Buuut, we'll be doing an unusual close-in follow-on release in January which will squeeze that feature in. Thanks for your patience on that one.


Is it January yet?? ;D

:D :D
 

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Guys
It ain't over until February 1
Lets not burn bridges or Dynon will not give estimates moving forward.
Patience is so hard ;)
 

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Being in Phase One testing of my Velocity SE with a rotary, I am especially anxious for the data logging. I don't think I will be able to fly until this weekend, so hopefully it will be out by then. Trying to take a quick picture of the SkyView with my phone is a bit unnerving at this point. :eek:

Chris
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Trying to take a quick picture of the SkyView with my phone is a bit unnerving at this point. :eek:

Even without datalogging, you still have the screenshot function.....buttons 2 & 7 if I recall? No need to try and hold your phone steady!
 

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Or, visit our downloads page on tomorrow (Wed 1/30) sometime around noonish :)
 

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jc2da

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Dynon, do you know of any tools out there to help analyze or graph the log data? Are there any you might have talked with about supporting the Skyview data format?

There are various tools and websites (a few listed below) that have great useful analysis features. I guess i should have mentioned this earlier but being compatible with Garmin's log format might be useful here. That would provide immediate support. However, now that the feature is being released, i would hope specific support for Skyview will become wide-spread.

Thanks for the new update!!! Data logging has been a long time coming!

Jae

Some of the log analysis sites:
https://www.savvyanalysis.com/
http://cirrusreports.com/
 
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