How do I get the Autopilot to fly an IFR approach?

[Sheldon_Upthegrove]

I have a Skyview HDX 1100 with the charts from Seattle. I have loaded an approach plate and saw the geo referenced plane on the chart. But couldn't figure out how to activate the approach like I could on the G1000.

Furthermore, I could not figure out how to tune in an ILS to fly. Nothing in the manuals or on Youtube.

I do not have any other nav source. I thought the HDX would have everything.

 

[dlloyd]

The Skyview has a VFR only GPS and will not fly an approach of any kind unless you have a certified GPS navigator. Nor does Skyview have a localizer or glideslope receiver, such as the Garmin SL30. Sorry for the brutal facts.

 

[Sheldon_Upthegrove]

So the TWELVE YEAR OLD technology in a 182 is SUPERIOR to a 2017 GDX?   DYNON needs to change this immediately.

I guess I will have to get Garmin equipment because of this HUGE failing by Dynon.   

 

[swatson999]

A) did you not read and understand the capabilities of the system before you bought it, and
B) there are pretty significant barriers to entry to the certified GPS Navigator market, and
C) seriously?

 

[Garrett]

Sheldon, what you just stated shows your avionics ignorance. ;D

 

[Sheldon_Upthegrove]

So what equipment would you recommend to add to get IFR?

 

[BlueCH750]

Get together with an experienced and current glass cockpit CFII and let the discussion begin starting with your experience level and platform you are flying. Include a local avionics shop or tech if you can. Once you have the equipment selected,  learn and understand it well on the ground, and then in the air with another experienced and current glass cockpit type pilot.  Seem reasonable?

 

[dynonsupport]

So what equipment would you recommend to add to get IFR?

Historically, most Dynon IFR panels are equipped with an SL30 or GNS430. Newer equipment would be the GTN650 or Avidyne IFD440/IFD540.

Dynon EFIS systems are all designed to work with these GPS navigators, which provide CDI and Glideslope data. Table 8 in the SkyView Installation Manual shows the data provided by various sources.

 

[gerry.vandyk]

Mr. Upthegrove, evidently you don't realize that the G-1000 is NOT a single device. It's an integrated collection of boxes working together. The unit you're discussing is the GIA 63 or GIA 63W (non-WAAS and WAAS respectively) These units contain com radio, nav radio and GPS receivers, if you've got dual com/nav and redundant GPS that means you've got 2 of them. These are essentially a GNS 430 without the face plate and are operated through the PFD panel. The GTX 32 transponder and GEA engine/airframe monitors are similarly remote boxes operated through the panels.

By regulation, IFR navigation equipment has to be TSOed, Dynon has always be up front that they don't make TSOed navigation equipment. They publish extensive data on how to integrate your selection of gear into your system.

You spouting off like that shows your failing, not Dynon's.

 

[dynonsupport]

We would ask everyone to be patient with each other on these forums.

It is worth pointing out that the market is changing. It used to be that everyone here was building their own plane, and so they were intimately acquainted with every detail.  That is still true for many pilot builders, but there are also more pilots buying second hand E-ABs, LSAs, and soon even certified aircraft.

Which means participants will be asking a lot wider range of questions; all the way from the minutia of installation details to basic questions on how to use features.

Dynon is unique in hosting an open forum. No other aviation company does that. It's risky, but we appreciate both being able to answer questions directly, and the knowledgeable responses from experienced customers.

Remember we are all pilots. Have you ever noticed at airshows with over 100,000 pilots attending, that the grounds are spotless with no debris? It's because we all are watching out for each other knowing that debris can cause damage. Let's keep that same attitude on our forum as well.

 

[Raymo]

So the TWELVE YEAR OLD technology in a 182 is SUPERIOR to a 2017 GDX?

I guess I will have to get Garmin equipment because of this HUGE failing by Dynon.   

Sheldon,

If your plane had a competitor's similar equipment designed for experimental aircraft, you would still need TSO'd IFR equipment and it is expensive.

You'd still pay WAY more for that 12 year old equipment than the Dynon system and it would not be as good, IMO.

There are a number of threads here on the topic of getting the most bang for the buck for IFR capabilities.

 

[GalinHdz]

So the TWELVE YEAR OLD technology in a 182 is SUPERIOR to a 2017 GDX?   DYNON needs to change this immediately.

I guess I will have to get Garmin equipment because of this HUGE failing by Dynon.   

Wait till he finds out that even with the other manufacturers he still has to get the separate certificated IFR navigation equipment. He will just pay a lot more for it, a whole lot more if he wants a G1000.

So what equipment would you recommend to add to get IFR? 

FWIW I use a G430W feeding the DYNON ARINC-429 module which also provides IFR GPS (/G) capability.  I even have the G430W directly feeding the DYNON SV-261 transponder for full 2020 ADS-B compliance. The combination is superb.

 

 

[airguy]

So the TWELVE YEAR OLD technology in a 182 is SUPERIOR to a 2017 GDX?   DYNON needs to change this immediately.

I guess I will have to get Garmin equipment because of this HUGE failing by Dynon.   

Wait till he finds out that even with the other manufacturers he still has to get the separate certificated IFR navigation equipment. He will just pay a lot more for it, a whole lot more if he wants a G1000.

So what equipment would you recommend to add to get IFR? 

FWIW I use a G430W feeding the DYNON ARINC-429 module which also provides IFR GPS (/G) capability.  I even have the G430W directly feeding the DYNON SV-261 transponder for full 2020 ADS-B compliance. The combination is superb.

 

Same here, with the 430W providing all my TSO'd nav capability. I'm using the Dynon GPS2020 receiver for my ADSB position though.

 

[swatson999]

So the TWELVE YEAR OLD technology in a 182 is SUPERIOR to a 2017 GDX?   DYNON needs to change this immediately.

I guess I will have to get Garmin equipment because of this HUGE failing by Dynon.   

Wait till he finds out that even with the other manufacturers he still has to get the separate certificated IFR navigation equipment. He will just pay a lot more for it, a whole lot more if he wants a G1000.

So what equipment would you recommend to add to get IFR? 

FWIW I use a G430W feeding the DYNON ARINC-429 module which also provides IFR GPS (/G) capability.  I even have the G430W directly feeding the DYNON SV-261 transponder for full 2020 ADS-B compliance. The combination is superb.

 

Same here, with the 430W providing all my TSO'd nav capability. I'm using the Dynon GPS2020 receiver for my ADSB position though.

Ditto, but I use the GPS2020 for ADS-B out (I originally split an output from the 430 to the XPDR, but then it turned out that Garmin had *gasp* made an error...don't tell the OP...and they had to update the firmware....at $100...and I just never got around to rewiring it; I figured Dynon would com eout with an ADS-B Out solution, and they did).

 

[GalinHdz]

Ditto, but I use the GPS2020 for ADS-B out (I originally split an output from the 430 to the XPDR, but then it turned out that Garmin had *gasp* made an error...don't tell the OP...and they had to update the firmware....at $100...and I just never got around to rewiring it; I figured Dynon would com eout with an ADS-B Out solution, and they did).

I also got caught up with that Garmin ADS-B "error" but my upgrade only cost me an additional $50.00. I have to say the combination has been working flawless ever since.