Version 16 schedule update ?

cbretana

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With the obvious caveat that it's not done until it's done, it would be extremely useful to have some regular or intermittent updates on the release schedule for HDX version 16. Perhaps a short blurb on where you are in the software development cycle might be added as a thread on a discussion forum. Do you have a release candidate or are you still in QA testing? Is the release locked down or still in flux? If not, how many bugs are still being worked on?
Any information at all would be appreciated.
 

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I agree. What is even expected from v16? Honestly last time someone was kind enough to give a peek it appeared to be 80-90% HDX related upgrades and a fine tuned autopilot, which many are anxiously awaiting its release. I have the old skyview D models so is there even anything to get excited about?
i understand Dynon doesn’t want to commit to something than decide to delay and customer get upset they were told they would be getting something, but a “on our list for this or next release is”..
anything at this point 15 months would be nice,
 

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It occurred to me this morning, why not use the experimental users to “ test” the new version and after all bugs are reported and Dynon has resolved, it can be released to the certified world. I can only assume the long gap is related to Dynon thinking everything is certified now and hence the dragged out delay in release. No one had to download the test version- call it test v16 if needed but it would be no different that the previous pre certified world releases that came out 1-2 times a year, as far as reliability.
or is there more to this next release? Like I mentioned previously, I’m not even sure there is anything to get excited about for skyview D panels.
 

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It occurred to me this morning, why not use the experimental users to “ test” the new version and after all bugs are reported and Dynon has resolved, it can be released to the certified world. I can only assume the long gap is related to Dynon thinking everything is certified now and hence the dragged out delay in release. No one had to download the test version- call it test v16 if needed but it would be no different that the previous pre certified world releases that came out 1-2 times a year, as far as reliability.
or is there more to this next release? Like I mentioned previously, I’m not even sure there is anything to get excited about for skyview D panels.

That seems like a good idea, but there are enough bugs that we find the hard way with any Dynon or Garmin updates. Using Beta Testers like myself is a safer way to do things. If you just throw bug ridden software out to the consumers and especially in aviation, the inevitable disasters will follow. Nobody wants that at all.

Just look at Microsoft......and Apple are getting that way now too.
 

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Not all experimental users are alike - and definitely not all of them are up to speed enough on technical issues to work as beta testers. You have a significant population in the experimental community of people who like the idea of an experimental (or the performance/cost) and buy one that someone else built - and have no idea how to maintain it or modify it, much less troubleshoot it. That does not make a good beta-tester, it makes a statistic and in the process gives your company a bad name. Dynon uses beta-testers such as David and myself, and several others, who know the products well and have the ability to do not only good testing but good troubleshooting, and don't mind taking on the risk of a product that may yield undesirable results during the testing period. It's a really good way to find bugs - release your product into the wild and let the users bash on it in unexpected ways - but make sure the limited user pool you release it to is competent enough not to die in the process.

If it makes you feel any better - I don't have a copy of v16 yet either - but I do have some of the new products that will come with v16 on a beta software running in my plane. You'll like them. :cool:
 

cbretana

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Thanks for your reply airguy... Some information, no matter how meager, is still way better than complete silence on the issue. Your reply at least gives me a clue as to what is going on ...
 

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Thanks Airguy. I’m holding off on buying anything for ADSB until I see what Dynon is doing.
 

yadmas

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Im still waiting on fixes to bugs in the current version - would be good if they could release an update to fix those let alone adding new features!
 

porterjames

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Could the upcoming Dynon web event be used to announce the release of the new firmware?
 

sunfish

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I hope I’m wrong but I’m beginning to think we might have been sacrificed to a “new business model”. I bought Dynon because of this user base and, at the time, obvious and demonstrated customer focus of the company. To me, Dynon willingness to listen and respond to customer needs and their excellent after sales service more than compensated for the excellent product quality and bulletproof reliability reputation of the more expensive Garmin brand.
 

skysailor

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I don't think you should worry. Dynon has been extremely responsive to and supportive of the customer base. Remember, that while there are requests for firmware version 16, the existing version 15 works just great. There are a lot of moving parts to this puzzle. There may come a time Dynon decides to split Certified and Experimental versions of the firmware. In that event changing the firmware of the Experimental version could be done more rapidly. That said, the changes may not occur as fast as some seem to desire. My Skyview Classic system in a Glasair could be operated to anywhere in the country and if required fly a coupled approach to RNAV LPV or ILS minimums. Every change they make has been tested to bring you another capability while maintaining this functionality.
 

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Guys and girls......... The delay has been due to feature addition and testing. Problem is in my opinion too many noisy requests for things we dont really need, but thats a whole other argument.

COVID smashed the NW of the USA, remote working, changing the factory to have everyone spread out a lot more, changing to two shifts......Dynon have been busy as a bee with a bum full of honey and as a result their software release schedule went out the window.

There is a whole lot of goodness about to unfold, and from the CEO down they are working hard on a lot of things that you will never see. But more effective code and efficiency in the background while not screwing everything up is a big task. Just look at Apple, MS, Boeing....the list goes on.

I am closer to the core than many customers, I am not permitted to splash out details, so don't even ask :) but I can say that patience will be rewarded.

Sunny......your typical pessimistic and conspiracy theory posts are not valid. The reasons you went Dynon are still valid. And they want to avoid doing a Garmin on their customers. Trust me they do a pretty good job of not shafting everyone with a big G experience.

Hang in there folks!
 
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