Thanx...No, I don't think I need the extra screen (the big screen+GTN650 is prob enough)...however, the is absolutely nothing behind the right panel...so future insertion of 7" would be easy.Awesome! Do you plan for another screen on the right in the future?
Dr M.status of panel ... to-date... C172L certified install...lots of work between top and bottom pix (attached)
Dr. MSteveden,
I used .090 alum sheet (many sources including Spruce) and cut my own. This is a very thick material and is the same as original material. The good news is that there are very few holes to cut and they are (mostly) square so a scroll saw is what I used. I kept the 3-panel Cessna scheme as shown in this pix. That allows most flexibility and ease of integration. Instead of powder-coating the panels (which is quite popular), I covered mine with hair cell finish ABS which is super durable and is consistent with other interior plastic parts for a more seamless look-and-feel.
Dr. M, are you an A&P/AI or are you having someone sign off on this. After getting some estimates from some supposedly soon to be Dynon certified shops, what i have found is that they are pricing this comparibly to a Garmin install, like $60k, instead of around $25k that seems reasonable. If you can have an AI sign off on your work I might pursue that avenue myself, but I don't know if that is legal yet. Any help is appreciated.status of panel ... to-date... C172L certified install...lots of work between top and bottom pix (attached)
Dr.M: I am proceeding along your path. First thanks for the solid information here. I was wondering if you have any thoughts or insights on the Cessna C182 panel. My airplane is a bit unique in that Cessna used it for several years as a test airplane originating as a K model before finally passing on to the world as an M model, with all the factory options of the day. I have purchased the Dynon system with my IA doing the supervising work. I'll check the yoke runout to see how that looks, thanks for that advice. Thanks also for answering the debate on 0.080 v. 0.090 6061 material.Darren,
I am using an AI to sign off. Dynon is amenable to that process at this time because they have yet to fully grow their installer network. I have significant personal experience and have installed similar systems before in previous refurbs and building a homebuilt with a glass panel. The difficulties that installers see as risks are probably (1) gutting the old panel and systems, (2) fabricating a new panel, (3) autopilot servos installation (see in process pix below), (4) vacuum system removal, (5) engine sensors installation (see in process pix below), (6) configuration of the Dynon system, and (7) integration with avionics. The Dynon system gives you the opportunity to completely modernize your flight/avionics, remove/rewire old avionics wiring, and get rid of old, cranky autopilots. But all of that requires plenty of tedious work and planning. The good news is that once everything behind the panel is gutted, reinstallation of Dynon network-based components is very straight forward and there is plenty of room to work. Dynon's installation manual has gone through about 3 revisions since I began and they have a few more installation components .. all of which should help for future installers. I have essentially completed the installation and think that $60k is pricey (heck, I'll do it for that). I think an experienced shop could do the Dynon install in about a man-month. A shop who has done the Dynon install before should easily make that estimate. Good luck...let me know how things work out...what model of aircraft are you installing in?
Greentips, What model 182?Dr.M: I am proceeding along your path. First thanks for the solid information here. I was wondering if you have any thoughts or insights on the Cessna C182 panel. My airplane is a bit unique in that Cessna used it for several years as a test airplane originating as a K model before finally passing on to the world as an M model, with all the factory options of the day. I have purchased the Dynon system with my IA doing the supervising work. I'll check the yoke runout to see how that looks, thanks for that advice. Thanks also for answering the debate on 0.080 v. 0.090 6061 material.
I too have removed probably 30-50 pounds of old wire left behind as avionics were upgraded between 1972 and 1990 when I bought the airplane. While tedious, I found it relaxing and I just couldn't help myself picking and unwinding those bits of history. I'm sure once I get ready to install the panel there will be more wire cleanup to do. Once I get started, I'll take and share the pics.
Now for the question: The present Cessna panel is the three piece panel, with the radio stack centered at the midline of the panel. At some point Cessna in later models (of 172 and I think 182) moved the radio stack from the midline to the right so that the right edge of the radios are at the midline. This gives room for the Dynon in my configuration giving me room to keep my WX900, KX155/KI209 backup and the Terra-100 ADF if I want and provides a very clean panel with space for the AP control when it finally reaches 182-space.
Do you have any thoughts on whether it is a good idea to move the radio stack 3.12" right to make more space for the 10" on the pilot side and use the 7" on the copilot side? Or keep it where its at on the midline. The radio attach rails are pretty well swiss cheesed from the mods over the years before I got the plane, so I would probably replace those in either case while I have the thing apart. The King cannot drive the Dynon, at least not directly as far as I know so I'll need to keep and place the indicator. I like redundancy.