Skyview Wish List

[CanardMulti]

Just saw the announcement that Dynon has acquired Trig. Perhaps now Dynon will finally offer some version of the Trig TX56 or TX57 NAV COM that will integrate with Skyview like the Dynon stand alone VHF com does via the network as opposed to serial port input. In a perfect world, the offering would be a remote box with a compact tuning head that would be a drop in replacement for the current com-only. Ya gotta have dreams, right?

 

[ve0kog]

a remote box with a compact tuning head that would be a drop in replacement for the current com-only

 

[andresmith76]

I just completed the stall/AOA calibrations for the 4 different flap settings on my RV-14A. I was surprised to then find out Skyview doesn't record or display the airspeed where each stall occurred.

I wish Skyview would indicate the stall airspeed values for each flap setting (Vs, Vs1, Vs2, Vso) on the airspeed indicator tape as it does for the Vx, Vy & Va performance speeds. Having these real-world numbers would create a great reference I could then add to my POH.

 

[Rhino]

Then your POH would be wrong. You can stall at any speed, so it's irrelevant. Besides, there's nothing to prevent you from recording those numbers yourself, if you deem them important.

 

[andresmith76]

Rhino - being an experimental, my POH is what I make of it. If the other V speeds, which can change, are indicated - why would including stall speeds be wrong?

 

[Rhino]

The calibration doesn't even measure speed, so there's nothing for Dynon to include. I imagine they have no interest in doing so because they aren't true stall speeds, and they don't want people confusing them as such. Yes, it's your POH. That's why I said you can record those numbers yourself.

 

[jnmeade]

Those other numbers (Vx, Vy, Xa,) are under set conditions, such as full gross weight, standard atmospheric conditions, etc. When you record your plane's numbers, you might want to be sure to include the parameters under which they obtained.

 

[andresmith76]

Those other numbers (Vx, Vy, Xa,) are under set conditions, such as full gross weight, standard atmospheric conditions, etc. When you record your plane's numbers, you might want to be sure to include the parameters under which they obtained.

Exactly - and Dynon allows you to go into the Settings menu and enter those 3 parameters numbers as you want. What I'm wishing for is Skyview to capture and record the airspeed where each stall occurs for future reference. Doing so would be more accurate than me having to watch and remember the airspeed while performing and recovering from a series of stalls. If displaying those numbers on the airspeed tape might cause confusion then don't - just document them in Skyview's setup menu for future reference. I see no downside by having this information recorded. I've discussed this with Dynon Tech support and they actually thought it was a good suggestion, implying it should be posted on my Wish List thread.

 

[ned]

Exactly - and Dynon allows you to go into the Settings menu and enter those 3 parameters numbers as you want. What I'm wishing for is Skyview to capture and record the airspeed where each stall occurs for future reference. Doing so would be more accurate than me having to watch and remember the airspeed while performing and recovering from a series of stalls. If displaying those numbers on the airspeed tape might cause confusion then don't - just document them in Skyview's setup menu for future reference. I see no downside by having this information recorded. I've discussed this with Dynon Tech support and they actually thought it was a good suggestion, implying it should be posted on my Wish List thread.

Sign up at https://www.flysto.net/ , After creating an account, you can upload the dynon user file to the app for detailed viewing of recorded data.
Very useful for viewing all flight data.

 

[r2brou2]

1. As mentioned before, I'd like to see enroute VNAV working with the Avidyne IFD.
2. Dynon integrated Nav/Comm.
3. Dynon certified pitch trim, not just the controller for 3rd party servos.
4. I'd also like to be able to have the PFD on the right side for a screen configured as the primary display. Currently, for a certified installation, the primary display must have reversion mode enabled and the screen role set to PFD. I don't recall which setting forced the primary side to be left with these settings, but I'd like mine to be on the right. The right side of the screen is directly in front of me with the rest of the screen offset to the left. I'm not sure why this wouldn't be configurable.

 

[Spert]

4. I'd also like to be able to have the PFD on the right side for a screen configured as the primary display. Currently, for a certified installation, the primary display must have reversion mode enabled and the screen role set to PFD. I don't recall which setting forced the primary side to be left with these settings, but I'd like mine to be on the right. The right side of the screen is directly in front of me with the rest of the screen offset to the left. I'm not sure why this wouldn't be configurable.

This is already a built in feature that is easy to change. From main menu, press
DISPLAY (Button 7) then tap the SETUP icon at the lower right corner of the DISPLAY page. The DISPLAY LAYOUT buttons offer the option to select Left or Right as the primary side when split screen is selected.

 

[r2brou2]

This is already a built in feature that is easy to change. From main menu, press
DISPLAY (Button 7) then tap the SETUP icon at the lower right corner of the DISPLAY page. The DISPLAY LAYOUT buttons offer the option to select Left or Right as the primary side when split screen is selected.

It has the capability to put the PFD on the right side. However, the manual states that there needs to be a "primary display" with reversion mode enabled and the screen role set to PFD. When you do this, it prevents the PFD from being allowed to be on the right side. The setup icon you mentioned disappears when the settings are configured per the manual. That's what I'm asking to change, let me choose the right screen for the PFD when configured per the manual as the primary display.

 

[Spert]

It has the capability to put the PFD on the right side. However, the manual states that there needs to be a "primary display" with reversion mode enabled and the screen role set to PFD. When you do this, it prevents the PFD from being allowed to be on the right side. The setup icon you mentioned disappears when the settings are configured per the manual. That's what I'm asking to change, let me choose the right screen for the PFD when configured per the manual as the primary display.

Interesting that this is not consistent, but I have experience behind HDX displays on two separate aircraft and both could do this easily and my recall is that the operator's manual description is accurate. In one case, it was a single screen setup and we would swap sides to facilitate easier viewing from the right seat. For the second case, there were two screens, and we could swap screens entirely (there is also a button on the display page for this), as well as swap the PFD from left to right on a specific screen.

I'm curious what other have seen.

My preferred configuration is to fly with PFD set to full screen (with engine bottom band) on one display and map on the other.

 

[r2brou2]

I can add some more specifics if anyone wants to dig in, I'd like to be wrong on this.

Certified installation manual rev Q section 6.3.1 states

A SkyView HDX System must have one display configured as the Primary Display. This display should be located at the position where the pilot would normally fly the aircraft. For airplanes, this is typically the left side.
To configure a display as Primary, enter the SCREEN LAYOUT SETUP menu (SETUP MENU > SYSTEM SETUP > SCREEN LAYOUT SETUP…) and configure the menus as shown in Figure 34 and described below:
1. Set REVERSION MODE ENABLED to YES
2. Set THIS SCREEN ROLE to PFD.

When in the Screen Layout setup with "THIS SCREEN ROLE" highlighted, the notes on the bottom describe what I see happening.

This setting defines the intended role of the display. When UNRESTRICTED the Primary Content and the Primary side may be configured with the Display Layout Menu. When not UNRESTRICTED the Primary Content is as specified and the Primary Side is always on the left and access to the Display Layout Menu is removed.

So if you follow step 2 of section 6.3.1, you can't get the PFD on the right side. They have all the hooks in there to allow the display to swap, but the language on the screen makes it seem like it was an intentional decision. The note in the HDX settings page about the THIS SCREEN ROLE is not in the installation manual or anywhere that I recall until the system is already installed, wired up, and turned on. The manual in section 4.3.2 specifically states that:

When considering where t place the HDX display in the instrument panel, consider that only 50% width of the display configured as the PFD must be located within the primary field-of-view.

There is no mention in the manual that it needs to be the right 50%. Too late to change the decision whether to offset the screen to the right or the left of center... This is pretty annoying and seems unnecessary and I hope Dynon changes this to allow the PFD on the right side.

For background info, I have enough panel space to have my D30 and external CDIs between the HDX and the radio stack by shifting the HDX slightly to the left. When the PFD is on the right side of the HDX, it is directly centered in front of me. Having the D30 and standby CDI's next to the GPS seems ideal in case the HDX goes dark, everything is next to each other. Smaller panels probably don't accomodate this layout, but for those that do, I'm surprised more people don't do their installation this way.

Edit: I didn't realize before that this thead is in the experimental forum, I found this thread when searching the forums looking for info on the IFD enroute VNAV capability and figured I'd add my wish list items. I haven't read through the non-certified Skyview installation manual, maybe this is only an issue for certified installations, which is what I have.

 

[r2brou2]

Interesting that this is not consistent, but I have experience behind HDX displays on two separate aircraft and both could do this easily and my recall is that the operator's manual description is accurate. In one case, it was a single screen setup and we would swap sides to facilitate easier viewing from the right seat. For the second case, there were two screens, and we could swap screens entirely (there is also a button on the display page for this), as well as swap the PFD from left to right on a specific screen.

I'm curious what other have seen.

My preferred configuration is to fly with PFD set to full screen (with engine bottom band) on one display and map on the other.

My guess is that the settings in the aircraft you flew have the "THIS SCREEN ROLE" set to UNRESTRICTED instead of PFD. Other than the legality of being per the manual, I'm not sure how much it matters in a single HDX installation. Since I only have a single HDX, I haven't looked into how the screens change when their is a failure, but I can see a requirement for ensuring a PFD is always present on one of the displays regardless which one fails. In my single HDX installation, I don't have to worry about my screen reconfiguring with a PFD in case another screen fails. I don't understand the requirement for setting the PFD role in single HDX installations or why the PFD is required to be on the left when set up that way.

 

[Spert]

It may be that I've just never seen Reversion Mode. That's definitely enabled, but I've never actually had either screen fail on me, so it may be that I've never seen that restriction in action. Regardless, the forum has done its job and caused me to seek further education on my systems knowledge. I'll have to doublecheck settings and report back on what I learn.